2025-03-26 snapshot

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Re: 2025-03-26 snapshot

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317 wrote: Mon May 05, 2025 1:28 am
Rico118 wrote: Sun May 04, 2025 3:32 pm
jlv wrote: Sun Apr 20, 2025 2:41 amIt looks impressive!
Might need to invest some money into mxs incase MTG taking all ur players..
Money is not a problem. MX Simulator will remain the greatest physical (physics) feeling game out of all motocross games on the market. Those who want a deeper challenge when it games to simulating motocross, will always run back to MX Simulator. MX Simulator is Godly compared to what MXB and what MTG will ever be.

JLV, you don't need to do anything. This beautiful creation of yours will remain on top when it comes to dedicated players.

It's one of those things where; "If you know, you know.."
i know MXS is physic wise the best game out there and im not saying he needs to change mxs physic wise but the fact MXB/MTG have so much social media content makes people think its the only mx game out there. MXS is really hard to understand and buying it isnt the easiest thing either if you compare it to MXB on steam. I hope MXS doesnt die even more with MTG coming out but it doesnt look promising especially not with the marketing MTG already has.

I think JLV does need to invest into content creators / racing organization to keep their riders. We all know how much time you need to put into this game to get somewat decent and the reward you get (last couple years) from racing organization is barely anything.

Might be an stupid idea from me but with rF failing admin wise lately i think jlv needs to step it up and get in touch with new people for a racing organization and pays either the crew (trackmakers/hosters/modelers/media) and let the riders pay entry fee and use that money for prizes or vice versa.

Im just thinking outside the box and want the best for mxs.
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Re: 2025-03-26 snapshot

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317 wrote: Mon May 05, 2025 1:28 am
Rico118 wrote: Sun May 04, 2025 3:32 pm
jlv wrote: Sun Apr 20, 2025 2:41 amIt looks impressive!
Might need to invest some money into mxs incase MTG taking all ur players..
Money is not a problem. MX Simulator will remain the greatest physical (physics) feeling game out of all motocross games on the market. Those who want a deeper challenge when it games to simulating motocross, will always run back to MX Simulator. MX Simulator is Godly compared to what MXB and what MTG will ever be.

JLV, you don't need to do anything. This beautiful creation of yours will remain on top when it comes to dedicated players.

It's one of those things where; "If you know, you know.."
Yeah we get it the physics are great but lets be real..
Not doing anything is exactly why the player base and the game itself is consistently falling off and is nearing the end.

The updates we get are completely lackluster, we have been asking for simple shit to be added to the game for over a decade and it is all completely ignored or overlooked.. Why have a "suggestion box" on the forum when none of the suggestions are even considered to be added into the game?

People have been asking for better bike sounds for over 10 years, we have been asking for better first person and third person camera settings for years, the rider falloff needs to be adjusted, we want new bike dynos, there is still absolutely nothing being done to mitigate people from ripping and stealing hard work from others and the list goes on and on.

I understand JLV is a busy guy but it feels like he has been busy for the last 10 years that I've had this game. At some point you need to bring in a part time developer so that the game can continue to progress. I would imagine that there are people within this very community that know coding/scripting that would gladly work alongside JLV if given the opportunity.

The sportsmanship and etiquette in this game is nonexistent unlike any other simulator racing game and JLV does absolutely nothing about it.
There are too many kids where their only goal is to continuously wreck as many people as possible on a daily basis. i.e., I can go in 01 and punt 30 people every race and as long as I don't cut the track nothing will happen. sorry but that's fucking retarded. This game is not enjoyable to play casually anymore because of this.

I know JLV has no control over RF as far as I'm aware, but RF AM's IS A COMPLETE FUCKING JOKE IN 2025, people are still getting away with key sharing, pros are using different UID's to race open Am's and even Novice, people are continuously targeting other riders during qualifying sessions and in the races with little to no consequence.. There is next to nothing being done to mitigate any this besides logging and matching IP's for key sharers which does nothing when you can use a hotspot to key share and not get caught.

The icing on the cake with RF is Kellen at SYS will no longer be streaming on RF's behalf due to lack of time, funding and possibly (speculating) due to the BS going on with the pro side of RF, i.e., people giving up their positions in the main so other people can have a spot to race instead.

The toxicity and bullshit we are forced to deal with casually, competitively and creatively has completely ruined this game.

Eventually, no matter how dedicated you are to this game..
Content creators will get tired of their shit being stolen, sold and ripped until it drives them away like it has many times before.
The average players are going to have enough of the bullshit, toxicity and lack of updates until it drives them away from the game too.
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Re: 2025-03-26 snapshot

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Zooted wrote: Mon May 12, 2025 8:57 pm
317 wrote: Mon May 05, 2025 1:28 am
Rico118 wrote: Sun May 04, 2025 3:32 pm

Might need to invest some money into mxs incase MTG taking all ur players..
Money is not a problem. MX Simulator will remain the greatest physical (physics) feeling game out of all motocross games on the market. Those who want a deeper challenge when it games to simulating motocross, will always run back to MX Simulator. MX Simulator is Godly compared to what MXB and what MTG will ever be.

JLV, you don't need to do anything. This beautiful creation of yours will remain on top when it comes to dedicated players.

It's one of those things where; "If you know, you know.."
Yeah we get it the physics are great but lets be real..
Not doing anything is exactly why the player base and the game itself is consistently falling off and is nearing the end.

The updates we get are completely lackluster, we have been asking for simple shit to be added to the game for over a decade and it is all completely ignored or overlooked.. Why have a "suggestion box" on the forum when none of the suggestions are even considered to be added into the game?

People have been asking for better bike sounds for over 10 years, we have been asking for better first person and third person camera settings for years, the rider falloff needs to be adjusted, we want new bike dynos, there is still absolutely nothing being done to mitigate people from ripping and stealing hard work from others and the list goes on and on.

I understand JLV is a busy guy but it feels like he has been busy for the last 10 years that I've had this game. At some point you need to bring in a part time developer so that the game can continue to progress. I would imagine that there are people within this very community that know coding/scripting that would gladly work alongside JLV if given the opportunity.

The sportsmanship and etiquette in this game is nonexistent unlike any other simulator racing game and JLV does absolutely nothing about it.
There are too many kids where their only goal is to continuously wreck as many people as possible on a daily basis. i.e., I can go in 01 and punt 30 people every race and as long as I don't cut the track nothing will happen. sorry but that's fucking retarded. This game is not enjoyable to play casually anymore because of this.

I know JLV has no control over RF as far as I'm aware, but RF AM's IS A COMPLETE FUCKING JOKE IN 2025, people are still getting away with key sharing, pros are using different UID's to race open Am's and even Novice, people are continuously targeting other riders during qualifying sessions and in the races with little to no consequence.. There is next to nothing being done to mitigate any this besides logging and matching IP's for key sharers which does nothing when you can use a hotspot to key share and not get caught.

The icing on the cake with RF is Kellen at SYS will no longer be streaming on RF's behalf due to lack of time, funding and possibly (speculating) due to the BS going on with the pro side of RF, i.e., people giving up their positions in the main so other people can have a spot to race instead.

The toxicity and bullshit we are forced to deal with casually, competitively and creatively has completely ruined this game.

Eventually, no matter how dedicated you are to this game..
Content creators will get tired of their shit being stolen, sold and ripped until it drives them away like it has many times before.
The average players are going to have enough of the bullshit, toxicity and lack of updates until it drives them away from the game too.
im agree with that
all my friends leave mxs to mxb
i still play mxs because i create track for myself but if i go on a server its destruction derby mx, and i have 0 fun, contact are bad, someone can kill u all the race with no consequence
Jlv should really listen the community, we need new things on this game, sounds, physics, graphics, bikes, better quality for replay etc...
it should be like cars sim racing like assetto corsa competition or i-racing and the lfm website for compétition with update every 3 or 6 month to improve the game.
i love this game, i have it since more than 10 years and i hope i ll be here in 10 years again but for that mxs need evolution
link of the topic : http://forum.mxsimulator.com/viewtopic.php?f=15&t=27353[/size] => new engine's sounds
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Re: 2025-03-26 snapshot

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Zooted wrote: Mon May 12, 2025 8:57 pm
Yeah we get it the physics are great but lets be real..
Not doing anything is exactly why the player base and the game itself is consistently falling off and is nearing the end.
No, the real reason the game is slowly dying is the toxicity of the community killed every decent content creator doing it for the love of the game and only left the people trying to make a buck, creating a soul-less competitive shell only good for filling the hole of the ego-centrists dreams.
The only fun is winning
Zooted wrote: Mon May 12, 2025 8:57 pm The updates we get are completely lackluster, we have been asking for simple shit to be added to the game for over a decade and it is all completely ignored or overlooked.. Why have a "suggestion box" on the forum when none of the suggestions are even considered to be added into the game?
He's overhauling lighting as we speak and "just" completely reworked the terrain for bigger and better tracks.
Zooted wrote: Mon May 12, 2025 8:57 pm People have been asking for better bike sounds for over 10 years, we have been asking for better first person and third person camera settings for years, the rider falloff needs to be adjusted, we want new bike dynos, there is still absolutely nothing being done to mitigate people from ripping and stealing hard work from others and the list goes on and on.
1) Bike sounds are moddable so not his priority
2) We have gotten camera improvements over the years, just not everything everyone wants
3) You won't like hearing this but Fall-off is too lenient and a lot of our small crashes that don't make sense usually stems from our concrete traction, something the community willed into existence
4) He has explained why he hasn't added newer dynos due to how dynos function in the first place and the fact that his source no longer operates/discloses results
5) Quite a bit has gone into the prevention of ripping and JLV heavily moderates the forums when his attention is brought to it, just because a shit ton of 3rd party backdoors exist isn't his responsibility, it's the community's as a whole
Zooted wrote: Mon May 12, 2025 8:57 pm I understand JLV is a busy guy but it feels like he has been busy for the last 10 years that I've had this game. At some point you need to bring in a part time developer so that the game can continue to progress. I would imagine that there are people within this very community that know coding/scripting that would gladly work alongside JLV if given the opportunity.
It has always been to my understanding from everything I've seen and heard from my 15+ years of being here: JLV is a part-time developer of his passion project/protest against MVA and always had been, and this game doesn't make him more money than his real job so it will never be the top priority of his life.
However saying that, he did express recently of thinking of grabbing a modeler to finish the bike update that's been in the works for like 10 years lol
Zooted wrote: Mon May 12, 2025 8:57 pm The sportsmanship and etiquette in this game is nonexistent unlike any other simulator racing game and JLV does absolutely nothing about it.
There are too many kids where their only goal is to continuously wreck as many people as possible on a daily basis. i.e., I can go in 01 and punt 30 people every race and as long as I don't cut the track nothing will happen. sorry but that's fucking retarded. This game is not enjoyable to play casually anymore because of this.
We as a community used to police each other and for many years we had excellent tight racing even with the shittier lag-composition allowing you to boot someone literally 500ft, the public servers were packed and if a random dickhead disrupted the peace, we bullied him until he left. As a community.
But also, we liked to have fun. Real ones remember to never sit near the stadium after an 03 race (now 04)
Zooted wrote: Mon May 12, 2025 8:57 pm The toxicity and bullshit we are forced to deal with casually, competitively and creatively has completely ruined this game.

Eventually, no matter how dedicated you are to this game..
Content creators will get tired of their shit being stolen, sold and ripped until it drives them away like it has many times before.
The average players are going to have enough of the bullshit, toxicity and lack of updates until it drives them away from the game too.
More or less accurate, but I've always been under the belief that money and ego within the community killed MXS a long time ago, it just hasn't died yet. And the fact that we have had waves of creators leave and the community always spits more greats out is a testament to the core of MXS: You can change everything, so make it your own. Except the physics, but you don't need to since no one has matched it in nearly 20 years. MXB is close but it took 10 years of development and community support to even get it there. And that community was built off the backs of old-head MXS creators even in it's conception.

Essentially, everyone hating on JLV should take a look in the mirror and ask what good you've done for this community (bitching instead of learning or acknowledging ones own faults is the furthest thing from help btw).
It wasn't JLV, or Checkerz, or Kellen, or RF that killed MXS by not doing enough, because they themselves didn't make MXS what it was. It was us. This game is only dead when the community is dead.
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