My thoughts on some improvements that could be made.

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It would be sik if you could adjust your levers + bars :P
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Mikey#527 wrote:It would be sik if you could adjust your levers + bars :P
what good would that do?
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Joe Sawler wrote:
jackofknives wrote:
Jonezy677 wrote:
5.)Traction. This game kind of feels like your riding on ice, or close to it. It feels VERY slippery, and too easy to wash out. I want to be able to go around a flat corner, get on the gas half way through and feel the bike hook up and power out, with the back end wanting to swing around the front. *The progressive throttle would be great here.


7)Physics. I love what you did with the leaning to turn, thats definately what we needed. But, it still needs alot of tweaking. Like I said earlier, the bike doesnt seem like it has any cornering traction and washes out too easy. We need the bike to feel alot more stuck to the ground. I like how you have to slow down for corners, but I think we have to slow down too much right now. This all ties in to the traction thing.
I agree with this 100%.

I actually think that the game needs a complete physics overhaul as a matter of fact. JLV is on the right path with this one, but there's a lot of work to be done still, the game still feels way undercooked. I'm not even talking about next gen graphics or multiplayer. I'm talking about core mechanics. I mean...how can this be a motocross simulator, when you can barely pull a wheelie? The front end is too heavy, the traction is too weak and the bike washes out way too easily, even at very low speeds.

I know i sound like i'm bitching and moaning, but i'm not. I really enjoy this game and i want to see it moving forward, but there's A LOT of room for improvement still. I just hope it doesn't take too long, i would hate to see the community go stale because of lack of updates, or poor gameplay.

Cheers all!
are you fucking serious!? man open your eyes this game has been around for just over a year and look how much JLV has done he is just one man and he is pumping out the updates like crazy and you say you dont want to see the community go stale because of lack of updates..psssh your an idiot
Don't get your panties in a bunch son, there's no need for foul language. I'm just stating my opinion, and since i'm a paying customer i guess i have the right to do so.

Besides, i don't recall complaining about lack of updates, i complained about the game physics. You should try to READ before running your mouth to other people.
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Joe Sawler wrote:
Mikey#527 wrote:It would be sik if you could adjust your levers + bars :P
what good would that do?
what good would it not do? wise ass
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Jack of Knives, I think what you're feeling has more to do with the weak ass tire/ground physics that we are stuck with for the time being. Huge gains can be made in this department. There are better things to be working on for the time being IMO. A tweak to the tire/ground physics is definitely in need, with due time though. The game is pretty fun as is, and once you learn to ride around the flaws it is more enjoyable. The heavy front end is a by product of using a controller instead of your arm's/hands/handlebars to control the bike. IRL you can pull the bike in in the air, there's no way to do that in the game, and until we all sprout extra hands and arms I don't think it could be done, and still have a manageable control system. There's so many things your body does w/o you having to think about it, and for the game we'd need a control for everyone of those, it's just too much. Evolution is a bitch ain't it!
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Mikey#527 wrote:
Joe Sawler wrote:
Mikey#527 wrote:It would be sik if you could adjust your levers + bars :P
what good would that do?
what good would it not do? wise ass


uhhh....it wouldnt do any good at all......the only thing adjusting your levers and bars do in real life is comfort...seeing as you never come into contact with your bars and levers on this game, it would serve no purpose what so ever.
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Phathry25 wrote:Jack of Knives, I think what you're feeling has more to do with the weak ass tire/ground physics that we are stuck with for the time being. Huge gains can be made in this department. There are better things to be working on for the time being IMO. A tweak to the tire/ground physics is definitely in need, with due time though. The game is pretty fun as is, and once you learn to ride around the flaws it is more enjoyable. The heavy front end is a by product of using a controller instead of your arm's/hands/handlebars to control the bike. IRL you can pull the bike in in the air, there's no way to do that in the game, and until we all sprout extra hands and arms I don't think it could be done, and still have a manageable control system. There's so many things your body does w/o you having to think about it, and for the game we'd need a control for everyone of those, it's just too much. Evolution is a bitch ain't it!
Definately agreed. A perfect physics system would be pretty much impossible to create. Specially for a one man development team, which is the case with MXS.

I guess that we both agree that the bike needs to feel less floaty, it needs more grip. I don't know if that goes in the ground/tire physics department, but it should be considered as the next big improvement in the game. Everyone, including newcomers to the game would benefit greatly from it.
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Jack O knives,

We all agree with you. The point has been throughly made and discussed.

You hit the nail on the head - we're waiting for updates from a one man development team who does the development in his spare time. We just finished the holidays. He's been concentrating on 1 single very major change for quite some time.

It is hard, but we simply need to wait it out. As much as I'd like to see the updates streaming out, I don't think that's going to be the case for a while yet.
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You guys have hit the nail on the head. I have been riding and racing bikes for over 25 years and this is the first game I have ever played that I felt I could go out and put in better lap times on a real bike. I have raced every surface including ice and never had a bike wash out on me so many times. But we also should give credit where credit is due. It is a one man show and he will make it better I am sure.
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Yeah o,o..I think its easier to ride in real life..Especially technical tracks.. :)
But..those 540 ft quadruples are easier in MXS.. :P
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Nah. I think riding in MXS is better than in real life.


I mean, if we all pushed as hard as we did in Real life as we do in MXS, you'd probably dump it over a lot.

And, no arm pump or getting tired. :/ That's a huge part of MX that is overlooked in MXS.
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90% of the reason we crash in mxs is because we are pushing it, + we arent afraid of crashing since we cant get hurt.
In real mx we know we can get hurt if we crash, so we(well atleast I) arent pushing as hard and taking as many risks.
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Pretty much.

I mean, people bitch because they can't make that uphill triple at Budds.


Well, would you in real life?
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I'd say almost all of my crashes in this game are a result of not riding conservatively.

I'd say 25% of my crashes in this game are just from trying to pull ridiculous whips when I have no business doing so.

"Oh man that was a siccccccc whip that I almoooooooost landed" I've said that at least 500 times.
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i think some visual physics would be nice ......leg out around corners etc
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