JLV- MX SIM- STEAM

[g-dub]

Hi Jlv, i know this has been asked before (a year ago) but... have you thought anymore about putting mxs on steam? i've had 3 people this week on steam ask me how i was playing mx sim and where did i get it.. lol tbh i found this game by pure chance, no adverts,no publicity, no info until i typed in google "motocross games for pc" just wondered if you ever thought about it and what your reasons were/are for not doing it if thats what you've decided. thanks mate

[Paulo#33]

Mx Simulator, willingly or not, is an Indie game, yes indie game!
Even with this quality, popularity, steam needs a fixed production and extensive with various officials to keep the game quality above a MX vs ATV.

Additionally, players of steam, only play racing games "arcade" and other games very easy.
If Mx Simulator entering steam, members who download, will give a critique: "From the pictures and the videos the game is good"

But when they try to play other criticize vain: "I just fall, the bike does not stand, this game is garbage."

All this you know why?
Why 80% of players of steam are people looking for graphical quality, but with simple gameplay that does not require knowledge.

Why Mx Simulator is better to keep "indie" Why 90% of players MXS has or had any experiences with bikes in real life or wants to play games difficult level.

I know you're asking directly for JLV, but that would be my answer if I were him.

[MacNeill 31]

Paulo#33 your assumptions about steam are incorrect. The "indie" game part of steam is more popular than ever. Valve (the company that runs steam) does a lot to promote indie type games, new ones are featured on the main store page every day. Even games with two dimensional sprite graphics can be very successful on steam. Also there are many simulation games for sale, not just the latest "call of duty." Having MXsim offered on steam would greatly increase the sales and awareness of it's existence, because as g-dub pointed out, many people sort of stumble onto it by accident. Also, I have made a lot of friends playing MX vs Atv reflex on steam in the past, but now that THQ has gone out of business and the reflex servers may be gone for good, there is a void to fill there. There are very few motocross games available on steam right now, mud, which by many accounts is a bad game, and reflex, which does not have multiplayer support any longer.

[jlv]

Probably would be a good idea. I haven't looked into how their software works. Anyone know if it would interfere with the current key system?

[T-RIDER]

I'm pretty sure it wouldn't. You would probably receive the key to your steam account then type it into the game as usual.

[pulse]

not that I know of, unless some on logs on steam on another computer that has sim and download it that way and get a key. but they wouldent ban able to play online if the other person is on steam.

[LilLitwiller]

Probably would be a good idea. I haven't looked into how their software works. Anyone know if it would interfere with the current key system?

Would it Be such a good idea? IMO it would cause a lot of hassle for the community.

[T-RIDER]

How so?

[LilLitwiller]

How so?

Idk, we already get enough people complaining. Steam is like console gaming, where everything is there for you at your disposal and there is no one to point fingers and accept the industry. So if we have a lot of those people who think everything is easy and should be done perfect it would cause a lot of havoc. Not to sure where I am going with this. Hope you get my point!

[AWood]

Everyone complaining clearly doesn't know how many hardcore gamers use steam. Eve Is on steam. And that game had a learning curve 100x harder than sim. It's more of an exposure thing than anything. I'm pretty sure they're content delivery system and update system is very simple also and not too hard for developers, that's why indie games thrive on steam. Idk if its possible to bypass Greenlight or what the requirements are to bypass that. But I'd go for it JLV. And MANY if not all games are comparable to be bought/launched with the steam client and also the stock client we already have. It would be great for the community, and Josh's wallet

[g-dub]

i agree, imo it would take mxs to that next level as far as bringing in more exposure and revenue. Not only that it would be awesome to actually have the game on there as most games launch thru steam and have all the options tied with them such as "view forum" and other handy options.there is a monumental gap in the market for mx games, granted the market would be tiny in comparison to that of a FIFA or COD, but a market none the less. My only concerns with the steam route is that the way "DLC" is handled.. i mean as it stands we all login to a website to search for tracks/gear/bike skins etc and 70% of the time we have to also edit files with notepad etc. this is fine if you are willing to learn but for quite a few this would be impossible. my idea would consist of this.. perhaps a select few of our community would create "packs" for the general public. this would include bike skins, helmet skins, gear skins, editor objects etc. or maybe a monthly update pack for steam users which contain the latest models and tracks etc? idk how you could implement that but its an idea. i personally would love to see mxs on steam, you could have links to the RF and MXScentral sites also so you can sign up for competitive races. Nordic games are "currently" is the process of announcing whats happening with the MvA series. until then where can you play a mx game online which is half decent, MUD btw the way for anyway who's thinking of getting it.. do NOT waste your money.. the game is possibly the worst mx game to date.

[g-dub]

So you'd like to have your game
on Steam?
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[BuryYourHead707]

Couldn't all of the custom tracks/gear/bikes be downloaded through Steam Workshop?

I know that various games use it like Skyrim, Garrys Mod, etc. I'm also pretty positive that it is free content.

Steam would be great for MXS no matter what anyone says. It would be easier for updates, we have one place for all DLC, and we could use the Steam overlay for friend invites and chat.
I honestly think this would streamline the experience ten fold, and create something much easier for the user to enjoy.
It would do a good deal towards getting MX Sim known and funded as well. Think about it JLV.. It could make things better for everyone I believe.
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[Paulo#33]

Probably would be a good idea. I haven't looked into how their software works. Anyone know if it would interfere with the current key system?

You would have to abandon the BMT Micro course.

The key generation system will be shut down.

The steam validates the game by e-mail of the User of steam.
The place to enter the key, would not exist.
So to play MXS, the steam will always have to be open.

example:
- I go into my steam account
- Buy the Mx Simulator by steam
- I do download the MXS by steam
- I install the game normally.
- I go and just play without typing any key.

If out of steam and try to enter the game, a screen will open and the steam will tell you to log.
If you log in, but the game was not purchased, the steam will not let you play.

To play offline, you must have an internet connection ever.

But I do not agree.
Why?
- Programmers hacker can easily make the game executable to dribble the steam and lets players play pirated offline and even play online on pirated servers (since disabled the confirmation key when it comes to servers).

This is my opinion not to put on steam, keep the game in standardized physical confirmation "Enter your key."
No hacker could circumvent this simple system and its BMT Micro Josh * - * (here comes the exceptions)

Sorry, google translator.

[cloud_2901]

Paulo - theres offline mode on steam, also I see no reason why putting it on Steam would remove JLV's key authorisation, plenty of games have Steam and keys to enter..

Steam would be a good move for the growth of the community, although there'd certainly be some kinks to work out with pricing (Steam taking a cut) and DLC / updates.

I for one welcome our new Valve Overlords :p