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Hi Im Skyqe · Post by **Hi Im Skyqe** » Fri Oct 02, 2015 2:47 am

JLV, can you explain how the low speed rebound works?

Mxs Racer 303 · Post by **Mxs Racer 303** » Fri Oct 02, 2015 2:55 am

I have done a lot of testing with this and its so amazing i think i found the setup.

cloud_2901 · Post by **cloud_2901** » Fri Oct 02, 2015 4:02 am

Hey checkerz, what adjustments would you make to your setup going to a RM125? Your 450 one was close.

yzmxer608 · Post by **yzmxer608** » Fri Oct 02, 2015 5:58 pm

jlv wrote:
yzmxer608 wrote:
checkerz wrote:Haha Puma. Give Peter some time and I'm sure he'll have setups dialed and I'm willing to be his marketing agent to create a new company called Race Tech Virtual haha. JLV, how about creating that live tuning graph and other stuff requested and calling it the "Race Tech Virtual Tuner App"?

By the way, Race Tech recommends and runs pretty low preload numbers and it is really important on a real setup. I've seen setups go from horrible to amazing by just changing a preload number. Infact I saw Justin Sipes SX testing last year notice HALF a turn on his rear shock spring and go from "okay" to "Don't touch it, this is awesome".

On a 2013 RMZ450, 185 lbs rider MX setup we recommend 6mm of preload on forks, 4mm on the shock.

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Referring to changing the preload is just changing the sag right?
Changing the preload changes the sag, but what he means is you want to choose your spring rate so ~4mm of preload gives you the correct sag. If you have to use a lot of preload to get the sag right your spring is too soft.

Oh I understand now, would it be possible to see a value for the sag in the menu?

MixinGas535 · Post by **MixinGas535** » Fri Oct 02, 2015 10:32 pm

Yeah is there some sort of formula we can use to calculate sag from the preload ?

Post by **jlv** » Sat Oct 03, 2015 2:45 am

It probably could be reduced to a formula but it wouldn't be easy. I am adding some telemetry info which you'll be able to get the sag from.

Hi Im Skyqe wrote:JLV, can you explain how the low speed rebound works?

It's the same as low speed compression only for the other direction.

Hi Im Skyqe · Post by **Hi Im Skyqe** » Sat Oct 03, 2015 2:50 am

jlv wrote:It probably could be reduced to a formula but it wouldn't be easy. I am adding some telemetry info which you'll be able to get the sag from.

Hi Im Skyqe wrote:JLV, can you explain how the low speed rebound works?
It's the same as low speed compression only for the other direction.

Thanks.

So from 0-50 you will progressively get faster rebound and from 50-100 it will be slower?

SMR 510RR · Post by **SMR 510RR** » Sat Oct 03, 2015 2:55 am

Hi Im Skyqe wrote:
jlv wrote:It probably could be reduced to a formula but it wouldn't be easy. I am adding some telemetry info which you'll be able to get the sag from.

Hi Im Skyqe wrote:JLV, can you explain how the low speed rebound works?
It's the same as low speed compression only for the other direction.
Thanks.

So from 0-50 you will progressively get faster rebound and from 50-100 it will be slower?

I believe its the other way around, you will get progressively more rebound dampening.

Hi Im Skyqe · Post by **Hi Im Skyqe** » Sat Oct 03, 2015 3:18 am

SMR 510RR wrote:
Hi Im Skyqe wrote:
jlv wrote:It probably could be reduced to a formula but it wouldn't be easy. I am adding some telemetry info which you'll be able to get the sag from.

It's the same as low speed compression only for the other direction.
Thanks.

So from 0-50 you will progressively get faster rebound and from 50-100 it will be slower?
I believe its the other way around, you will get progressively more rebound dampening.

Yeah I messed that up. What I was meaning to say was, from 50-0 you get progressively faster and from 50-100 you get aggressively slower.

Mxs Racer 303 · Post by **Mxs Racer 303** » Sat Oct 03, 2015 3:51 am

Updated again let me know how it rides guys

KAWASAKIZ · Post by **KAWASAKIZ** » Sat Oct 03, 2015 6:37 am

my setup is like fucked up... i just crash everytime, my rear suspension's gone

vmaki · Post by **vmaki** » Sat Oct 03, 2015 11:23 am

jlv wrote:I am adding some telemetry info which you'll be able to get the sag from.

This makes me exited!

Big Smooth one3 · Post by **Big Smooth one3** » Sat Oct 03, 2015 5:20 pm

I'm assuming the setups posted in here are for SX? I know the one I did was, but I'm messing around with MX after Chex released the TM-Compound...but I'm struggling. Any suggestions on changes I should make from my solid SX setup to make it friendly to outdoors?

Mxs Racer 303 · Post by **Mxs Racer 303** » Sat Oct 03, 2015 7:50 pm

Mxs Racer 303 wrote:Updated again let me know how it rides guys

Use this one for both

checkerz · Post by **checkerz** » Sun Oct 04, 2015 3:16 am

Big Smooth one3 wrote:I'm assuming the setups posted in here are for SX? I know the one I did was, but I'm messing around with MX after Chex released the TM-Compound...but I'm struggling. Any suggestions on changes I should make from my solid SX setup to make it friendly to outdoors?

Without bumps and the big jumps on tm compound I'd guess a SX setup would be fine besides the rollers. I also built part of it with SX setup

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