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Ams and qualifying

Postby TylerMac119 » Thu Jan 03, 2019 7:07 am

I am an Am trying to qualify for races this sx season and have noticed that a lot of the fastest ams are able to out qualify the pros. I believe that if you're fast enough to be pro then that's the class you should race and not have to whoop up on us ams that are trying to battle with other actual ams. I know a simple solution is to just practice or to get over it but I'm just here to point it out. Please don't hate on this too much cause I'm bad or whatever but I had to bring this up.
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Postby dawsonsleeper » Thu Jan 03, 2019 7:12 am

1 fast lap doesnt mean you can go pro. anyone can run a heater.
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Re: Ams and qualifying

Postby 808 » Thu Jan 03, 2019 7:13 am

The pros only get 1 hour to qualify, ams get like 4 days, also some pros shouldn't be pro, and some ams shouldn't be ams. Just how it is.

IRL some of the amateurs are way faster than most pros before they go pro, just part of the sport
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Re: Ams and qualifying

Postby TylerMac119 » Thu Jan 03, 2019 7:45 am

The pros only get 1 hour to qualify, ams get like 4 days


Is it possible ams could get the same format for the am races?
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Re: Ams and qualifying

Postby nickuzick » Thu Jan 03, 2019 11:30 am

TylerMac119 wrote:
The pros only get 1 hour to qualify, ams get like 4 days


Is it possible ams could get the same format for the am races?

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Re: Ams and qualifying

Postby Finalmushroom » Tue Jan 08, 2019 7:08 pm

808 wrote:The pros only get 1 hour to qualify, ams get like 4 days, also some pros shouldn't be pro, and some ams shouldn't be ams. Just how it is.

IRL some of the amateurs are way faster than most pros before they go pro, just part of the sport


Agreed! MX needs to come up with a class system similar to BMX racing. I grew up racing BMX and once you have so many wins you're forced to move up. You can't sit in 250C class going as fast as the 250A class kids. lol.

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Re: Ams and qualifying

Postby AtlasZoor » Tue Jan 08, 2019 8:14 pm

Finalmushroom wrote:
808 wrote:The pros only get 1 hour to qualify, ams get like 4 days, also some pros shouldn't be pro, and some ams shouldn't be ams. Just how it is.

IRL some of the amateurs are way faster than most pros before they go pro, just part of the sport


Agreed! MX needs to come up with a class system similar to BMX racing. I grew up racing BMX and once you have so many wins you're forced to move up. You can't sit in 250C class going as fast as the 250A class kids. lol.

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That's how it is also in moto though. But its not as well enforced locally. your always going to have sand baggers no matter what sport.
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Re: Ams and qualifying

Postby Insid1ouZ » Tue Jan 08, 2019 9:12 pm

One way they could do it would be to cut off AMs qualifying something like 24 hours after qualifying opens only giving poeple one day to qualify. that way you wont have people tryharding for 4 days to get a good time. they can still do it for the race but this gives slower but consistent players a better chance of getting in while hotlap heroes who crash 99/100 laps don't have 4 days to run that 1 magic lap that gets them in.
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Re: Ams and qualifying

Postby Finalmushroom » Tue Jan 08, 2019 9:20 pm

AtlasZoor wrote:
Finalmushroom wrote:
808 wrote:The pros only get 1 hour to qualify, ams get like 4 days, also some pros shouldn't be pro, and some ams shouldn't be ams. Just how it is.

IRL some of the amateurs are way faster than most pros before they go pro, just part of the sport


Agreed! MX needs to come up with a class system similar to BMX racing. I grew up racing BMX and once you have so many wins you're forced to move up. You can't sit in 250C class going as fast as the 250A class kids. lol.

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That's how it is in moto though, not BMX. But its not as well enforced locally. You're always going to have sand baggers no matter what sport.


Not from my experience. It goes like this in most local races. Official: "What's your class sir?" Me: "250C"
They don't even care man unless they know you personally and know you're a fast rider but you can race in another state and no one will know you.

Last summer I raced a kid in 450C and later saw him racing his 450 in the 250C class. He was running the same 450 in the 250C and 450C class and no one said shit. lol. It's a joke at most local spots.

But with BMX all of the races you have to utilize USA BMX's (The racing organization) system and you have to log into their system to run races and log in race results. It's all systematic and controlled. Most MX organizations are private unless you're racing at Loretta's for an area qualifier and therefore they utilize their own system and have their own rules and rule books. There needs to be a professional organization (Shit AMA should run it) that all private organizations have to report to just like in BMX. Sand baggers will still pull seconds instead of wins to not move up but fuck em.

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Re: Ams and qualifying

Postby AtlasZoor » Tue Jan 08, 2019 9:26 pm

Finalmushroom wrote:Not from my experience. It goes like this in most local races. Official: "What's your class sir?" Me: "250C"
They don't even care man unless they know you personally and know you're a fast rider but you can race in another state and no one will know you.

Last summer I raced a kid in 450C and later saw him racing his 450 in the 250C class. He was running the same 450 in the 250C and 450C class and no one said shit. lol. It's a joke at most local spots.

But with BMX all of the races you have to utilize USA BMX's (The racing organization) system and you have to log into their system to run races and log in race results. It's all systematic and controlled. Most MX organizations are private unless you're racing at Loretta's for an area qualifier and therefore they utilize their own system and have their own rules and rule books. There needs to be a professional organization (Shit AMA should run it) that all private organizations have to report to just like in BMX. Sand baggers will still pull seconds instead of wins to not move up but fuck em.

-Jake


Like I said, its not well enforced locally and I agree the system should be better.
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Re: Ams and qualifying

Postby Finalmushroom » Tue Jan 08, 2019 9:29 pm

AtlasZoor wrote:
Finalmushroom wrote:Not from my experience. It goes like this in most local races. Official: "What's your class sir?" Me: "250C"
They don't even care man unless they know you personally and know you're a fast rider but you can race in another state and no one will know you.

Last summer I raced a kid in 450C and later saw him racing his 450 in the 250C class. He was running the same 450 in the 250C and 450C class and no one said shit. lol. It's a joke at most local spots.

But with BMX all of the races you have to utilize USA BMX's (The racing organization) system and you have to log into their system to run races and log in race results. It's all systematic and controlled. Most MX organizations are private unless you're racing at Loretta's for an area qualifier and therefore they utilize their own system and have their own rules and rule books. There needs to be a professional organization (Shit AMA should run it) that all private organizations have to report to just like in BMX. Sand baggers will still pull seconds instead of wins to not move up but fuck em.

-Jake


Like I said, its not well enforced locally and I agree the system should be better.


Agreed. I think Sim should enforce classes more. Often what happens is AM's who don't qualify for AM's run in the Novice class. It's BS. They need to give one license and leave it all season. We saw this last year when some 250 riders (Rush) run the 450 class after he wrapped up the championship. This can happen IRL (Hill and Creg last SX season) but throws a wrench in the current points chase. lol.

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Re: Ams and qualifying

Postby shanebell » Tue Jan 08, 2019 10:46 pm

I would be fine with a 24 hour qualifying session or something similar.
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