What good is front end lock?

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What good is front end lock?

Postby Guggen » Sat May 11, 2019 12:42 am

I know front end lock had been updated, but it still doesn't work when it should. Just about every time I get front end lock is when someone crosses their line into me, my front wheel grazes their back wheel and I go down from the lock. Then for example when I go in for an aggressive pass(punt) I get no front end lock and ride away while the other dude goes down no matter how hard the impact was. I know you want to punish punters or whatever but it doesn't work, and a lot of times ruins the innocent persons race for going down for something that they could have rode away with. I find myself having to create a 10ft bubble around other riders just because I'm worried that ill go down by getting too close. Now with erode absolutely wrecking tracks, its really hard to maintain that bubble and I find myself hitting erode edges that launch me in directions that I had no intention of going, hitting someones wheel then going down all race.

In short, front end lock isn't sensitive enough for punting, and way too sensitive for wheel grazes.

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Re: What good is front end lock?

Postby Reid » Sat May 11, 2019 4:07 am

yeah it sucks. only good is to punish punters but it literally does not work lol. people TOUCH my back wheel all the time, and i end up going down cause of front end lock.

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Re: What good is front end lock?

Postby 808 » Sat May 11, 2019 5:44 am

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Yeah, it's dumb.
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Re: What good is front end lock?

Postby yzmxer608 » Sat May 11, 2019 9:59 am

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Re: What good is front end lock?

Postby Atom6246 » Sat May 11, 2019 10:08 am

I'm in awe after watching that video Nate. That looks so sick.
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Re: What good is front end lock?

Postby D_ROY178 » Sat May 11, 2019 2:25 pm

Atom6246 wrote:I'm in awe after watching that video Nate. That looks so sick.


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Re: What good is front end lock?

Postby Ddavis » Sat May 11, 2019 6:52 pm

Imagine being able to "bump and run" in sim like you can in real life, specifically in car racing that term is used, but in sim its just "block pass and brake check" :roll:
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Re: What good is front end lock?

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Re: What good is front end lock?

Postby motocross_will » Mon May 13, 2019 6:14 pm

yzmxer608 wrote:

This video actually has me shook
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Re: What good is front end lock?

Postby USABMXER1 » Tue May 14, 2019 3:52 am

Front end lock was put in place for people to stop punting. Clearly you see that hasn't stopped them. But you were able to shoot them clear across the track without getting a fall off and barely even being affected by it if that says anything about how it was.
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Re: What good is front end lock?

Postby MOTO NATIOM112 » Wed May 15, 2019 12:21 am

USABMXER1 wrote:Front end lock was put in place for people to stop punting. Clearly you see that hasn't stopped them. But you were able to shoot them clear across the track without getting a fall off and barely even being affected by it if that says anything about how it was.

But JLV fixed that a while ago. He made it so you can't send someone into orbit like the old days. Personally, I think "front end lock" should be taken out of the game again. It would make 99.9% of the sim community very happy.
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Re: What good is front end lock?

Postby Hi Im Skyqe » Wed May 15, 2019 12:47 am

MOTO NATIOM112 wrote:
USABMXER1 wrote:Front end lock was put in place for people to stop punting. Clearly you see that hasn't stopped them. But you were able to shoot them clear across the track without getting a fall off and barely even being affected by it if that says anything about how it was.

But JLV fixed that a while ago. He made it so you can't send someone into orbit like the old days. Personally, I think "front end lock" should be taken out of the game again. It would make 99.9% of the sim community very happy.


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Re: What good is front end lock?

Postby FlyinHigh » Wed May 15, 2019 1:35 am

yzmxer608 wrote:

This video turns me on. If it was like this again the racing would be so much better and more fun.
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Re: What good is front end lock?

Postby jlv » Wed May 15, 2019 2:44 am

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Yeah, it's dumb.

Just so you know, I didn't ban you for what you posted here. It was for multiple accounts. Someone noticed the name in the gif matched a previously banned account and reported you.

To answer the question in the title, there is no such thing as "front end lock" anymore. You have full manual steering control the whole time. Only the stabilizer steering force is scaled down. The reason for scaling down the stabilizer force is because the super quick reacting stabilizer made block passes almost work backwards. The player in front was at a disadvantage which made the preferred method of passing hitting the other player in the footpeg and pushing him over the berm. Those bump passes were very reliable with the full stabilizer force in action. On top of that, good block passes where you actually had a wheel on someone weren't reliable.

I do agree the stabilizer ramp up after contact is still a bit too slow. I'll probably speed it up a bit in the future. Just not enough to bring back the bump passes.
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Re: What good is front end lock?

Postby Wahlamt » Wed May 15, 2019 5:28 am

Maybe try something in the exact middle of what we have now and when there was no stabilizer change? Then go from there?


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