jlv wrote:If it weren't for Havoc I'd have been arguing with the 12 year olds by myself.
Sounds interesting, can we expect some sort of bigger update in terms of optimization and graphics quality coming eventually?jlv wrote:Been focusing more on learning to do animation in Blender for my new flaggers.
yes please and if you need money you could also make it a paid snapshot if you need money i guess people are ready to paysethypeety wrote:Sounds interesting, can we expect some sort of bigger update in terms of optimization and graphics quality coming eventually?jlv wrote:Been focusing more on learning to do animation in Blender for my new flaggers.
jlv wrote:If it weren't for Havoc I'd have been arguing with the 12 year olds by myself.
TeamHavocRacing wrote:Some kids just don't get at all, do they? It's not a matter of money. He would have to abandon this current platform and start over. So, you should learn coding and get busy!
My bad, I should have been more specific, when I say "better graphics" I don't mean better textures, higher resolution and more geometry in the models. Honestly for a game that came out in 2007 you can make this game look pretty good. I just thought since he was working on flagger character models, this might lead to an update where we can use more 3D objects with less aggressive LOD's and leave the 2D billboards for very distant details and smaller grasses. I know what it would take to overhaul the game and I don't expect that out of JLV.C.K.234 wrote:yes please and if you need money you could also make it a paid snapshot if you need money i guess people are ready to pay
jlv wrote:If it weren't for Havoc I'd have been arguing with the 12 year olds by myself.
LODs are just a fact of life it you want good framerates. There's nothing I can do to make it fast on bloated models aside from having the game create lower LODs by automatically decimating the models. I admit I've considered it but if you want that you can just create the LODs by decimating in Blender.sethypeety wrote:TeamHavocRacing wrote:Some kids just don't get at all, do they? It's not a matter of money. He would have to abandon this current platform and start over. So, you should learn coding and get busy!My bad, I should have been more specific, when I say "better graphics" I don't mean better textures, higher resolution and more geometry in the models. Honestly for a game that came out in 2007 you can make this game look pretty good. I just thought since he was working on flagger character models, this might lead to an update where we can use more 3D objects with less aggressive LOD's and leave the 2D billboards for very distant details and smaller grasses. I know what it would take to overhaul the game and I don't expect that out of JLV.C.K.234 wrote:yes please and if you need money you could also make it a paid snapshot if you need money i guess people are ready to pay
Where did you read this? That isn't at all what JLV has said.TeamHavocRacing wrote:Some kids just don't get at all, do they? It's not a matter of money. He would have to abandon this current platform and start over. So, you should learn coding and get busy!
From testing, I've noticed lag spikes from LOD popping, any idea what's up with that? It's the main reason why personally I've avoided it. It doesn't take much more effort to create a lower LOD, I just don't want to add any extra lag.jlv wrote:LODs are just a fact of life it you want good framerates. There's nothing I can do to make it fast on bloated models aside from having the game create lower LODs by automatically decimating the models. I admit I've considered it but if you want that you can just create the LODs by decimating in Blender.
I think this is the main reason why we see such "bloated" models. We all want to keep up with AAA games such as MVA or MXGP. We aren't even close visually from a model standpoint, even though if you look closely in comparison, our models typically blow theres out of the water. Most likely it's due to being behind the curve on lighting, The amount of talent that comes out of this community is insane, and I can only imagine what we'll see with a graphics update. I know it's a poor excuse to blame the game on making our models high poly, or use high resolution textures, but honestly, it's the only thing that gets us close to other games.jlv wrote:...update the shaders to do all lighting with environment maps.
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Some time ago someone asked about getting more modern graphics features that weren't possible in this game. Since when did facts matter? I just gave alternate facts. Now I'm gonna go slam handfuls of hydroxychloroquin and inject disinfectant while drinking bleach. Facts!Hi Im Skyqe wrote:Where did you read this? That isn't at all what JLV has said.TeamHavocRacing wrote: current platform
jlv wrote:If it weren't for Havoc I'd have been arguing with the 12 year olds by myself.
lol you got me to laugh for once.TeamHavocRacing wrote:Some time ago someone asked about getting more modern graphics features that weren't possible in this game. Since when did facts matter? I just gave alternate facts. Now I'm gonna go slam handfuls of hydroxychloroquin and inject disinfectant while drinking bleach. Facts!Hi Im Skyqe wrote:Where did you read this? That isn't at all what JLV has said.TeamHavocRacing wrote: current platform
I don't understand why we can't have higher quality models with more aggressive LOD's. Would this not make it so people with higher end PC's that run everything maxed out have a better graphical experience without tanking the frame rate of lower end PC's?Jones221 wrote:
since jeremy can't have a conversation without getting offended and upset, ill just post this here.
The original commmunity on mx simulator was a group of extremely talented modelers and skinners who limited themselves to create low poly objects for the greater good of the game. the goal was best performance while seeking as close to visual realism. original modelers optimized the process by using skins and eventually shaders. these are details that are usually scattered about the bike now (like these details no one really cares about besides the rendering community). when jlv calls models 'bloated' this is what he is talking about. even JRE's rider model uses ~5k more poly's than its predecessor (which added is 200k in rider models from a full gate).. this is why iracing models are extremely low poly yet they are still a growing fan base because of the racing available.
if you want to play render simulator, go for it. im looking for good gameplay.
