2019 Yamaha YZ450F Release

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Re: 2019 Yamaha YZ450F Release

Postby askozenk » Thu Mar 21, 2019 9:38 pm

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Re: 2019 Yamaha YZ450F Release

Postby Ac Dash » Thu Mar 21, 2019 9:54 pm

DBRider251 wrote:
Ac Dash wrote:Wish jlv would hire a dev team and get proper licensing for name brand bikes so this type of thing could be avoided.
Ripping wouldnt be as common being everyone would have access to the models.

You’re insane. JLV isn’t gonna hire a team to make free models. How in the hell would that be profitable?

At no point did i ever say free.

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Re: 2019 Yamaha YZ450F Release

Postby Djlove04 » Thu Mar 21, 2019 10:48 pm

Quinten wrote:
AndradeF wrote:
askozenk wrote:Hi guys, I just arrived at home and I tooked a close look to the model, this thing is an mesx 2 (milestone) model, he didn't maked anything.

So yes this shit doesn't woth 50$ :wink:


Guilherme told me that just to find it identical with a comparison you said this, interesting, if the base of the frame is from the extrememaniac, how he ripped the bike, please do not judge months of hard work for it.



For someone who can model an entire bike from "scratch", the AO and normal mapping supposedly "made" for this bike is insansely bad.

Points of interest:
- Rear fender

Coming from someone who owns a 2019 YZ, I can say that one, this model is not modeled to spec and two, is in fact ripped from MESX 2. See pictures below...

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This is the model claimed to be modeled and not ripped from MESX 2 (Keep in mind the materials taken from MESX 2 use different shaders than in sim thus giving it that super reflective look)

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This is the same bike in MESX 2

Now you may presume to say well they modeled the same bike using the same references... ERRRR wrong.

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This is what a real fender looks like, you can see that the ECU storage compartment is entirely different.

I'm all for new modelers in the community but don't stand behind ripped models ESPECIALLY from another game.

Neal Im not taking anyone’s side on this. The picture you compare it to does look very similar but it is different in ways. I don’t know how any of this modeling stuff works or how you could even rip something. The base is from another sim model, I can tell you that. Could you post more comparisons to prove its ripped or pm me because I dont really know if it is or not.

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Re: 2019 Yamaha YZ450F Release

Postby Jeremy150 » Thu Mar 21, 2019 10:49 pm

DBRider251 wrote:You’re insane. JLV isn’t gonna hire a team to make free models. How in the hell would that be profitable?

If he had an official team to work on providing things like bike models, gear, tracks, and things like developing erode, working on PBR shaders for HDR environments, post processing, and more, he could market the game and it could stand up visually next to AAA titles. There are some very talented creators in this community, both past and present, and I wish he would take advantage of them before they are all gone.

There's two ways he could go about it. The first option is to include all of the above mentioned items with the game when you purchase it, and or just release them on the forum. The other option is to add a DLC option to his game and have people pay a few dollars for each item.

The latter option would probably work out the best as he would very easily be able to cover his cost of his new dev team bringing his game to it's max potential.
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Re: 2019 Yamaha YZ450F Release

Postby Djlove04 » Thu Mar 21, 2019 10:49 pm

Sorry I thought Neal posted that. Quiten, I dont own mesx2 so I would appreciate it

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Re: 2019 Yamaha YZ450F Release

Postby motochris192 » Thu Mar 21, 2019 11:11 pm

Whoever is ripping models from milestone's games & trying to sell them needs to be banned & so does anyone helping them
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Re: 2019 Yamaha YZ450F Release

Postby Quinten » Thu Mar 21, 2019 11:39 pm

Djlove04 wrote:Sorry I thought Neal posted that. Quiten, I dont own mesx2 so I would appreciate it


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In sim (notice no zip tie on cycra front number plate aorund forks):
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Re: 2019 Yamaha YZ450F Release

Postby 808 » Thu Mar 21, 2019 11:41 pm

Let's all just pretend it's not ripped, we need a new yama model :lol:
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Re: 2019 Yamaha YZ450F Release

Postby ColtHans » Thu Mar 21, 2019 11:42 pm

808 wrote:Let's all just pretend it's not ripped, we need a new yama model :lol:

Dean is working on 1
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Re: 2019 Yamaha YZ450F Release

Postby Djlove04 » Thu Mar 21, 2019 11:52 pm

Quinten wrote:
Djlove04 wrote:Sorry I thought Neal posted that. Quiten, I dont own mesx2 so I would appreciate it


In sim:
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In MESX 2:
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In real life:
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In sim (notice no zip tie on cycra front number plate aorund forks):
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In MESX 2:
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In real life:
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I agree the back fender is similar. What about the rest of thr bike and/or plastics. The zip tie tho lol

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Re: 2019 Yamaha YZ450F Release

Postby MOTOZ293 » Thu Mar 21, 2019 11:58 pm

The Zip tie is missing in both, and theyre both identical with lines and shading. The specs are different becuase of how sim doesnt have hdr lighting. I cant believe youre defending this dude
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Re: 2019 Yamaha YZ450F Release

Postby Ac Dash » Fri Mar 22, 2019 12:04 am

Jeremy150 wrote:
DBRider251 wrote:You’re insane. JLV isn’t gonna hire a team to make free models. How in the hell would that be profitable?

If he had an official team to work on providing things like bike models, gear, tracks, and things like developing erode, working on PBR shaders for HDR environments, post processing, and more, he could market the game and it could stand up visually next to AAA titles. There are some very talented creators in this community, both past and present, and I wish he would take advantage of them before they are all gone.

There's two ways he could go about it. The first option is to include all of the above mentioned items with the game when you purchase it, and or just release them on the forum. The other option is to add a DLC option to his game and have people pay a few dollars for each item.

The latter option would probably work out the best as he would very easily be able to cover his cost of his new dev team bringing his game to it's max potential.


Well said. I cant wrap my head around to why this hasnt happened yet :?

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Re: 2019 Yamaha YZ450F Release

Postby Quinten » Fri Mar 22, 2019 12:12 am

Djlove04 wrote:I agree the back fender is similar. What about the rest of thr bike and/or plastics. The zip tie tho lol


Why are you still trying to defend? I've clearly stated the obvious and provided the proof. Where is yours? I can continue to provide images and waste my time proving a point that has already been made or you can come to the realization with the rest of us that it is clearly ripped from MESX 2.
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Re: 2019 Yamaha YZ450F Release

Postby DaleMullins873 » Fri Mar 22, 2019 12:25 am

A few things I’ve noticed in the psd/in game is
- the seat goes a little through the rear fender
- the norms are wrong and needed to be inverted
- the base is from an older model
- most parts are from an older model too.
But I see where quinten is coming from with his arguments
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Re: 2019 Yamaha YZ450F Release

Postby nickuzick » Fri Mar 22, 2019 2:10 am

How about people that post ripped shit for someone that's already banned gets crushed as well?
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