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I just cant picture these mopeds making a supercross triple or around southwick or the mud if that. The noise would kill our videos people make. They are ugly and like I said I bet it cant go though deep sandy mud as well as a 4 thumper or a 2 stroke.
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265 pounds holy shit! I would love to see what the power curve is. Anyone found data other than the manufacturer specifications?
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DJ99X wrote:The rear sprocket is that big because the bike doesn't have an internal gearbox like a combustion bike.
Take your logic and GTFO!!!!

Why would this bike go through sand as well as a 450? It has just as much HP and instant torque. It's impossible to bog....
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Phathry25 wrote:
DJ99X wrote:The rear sprocket is that big because the bike doesn't have an internal gearbox like a combustion bike.
Take your logic and GTFO!!!!

Why would this bike go through sand as well as a 450? It has just as much HP and instant torque. It's impossible to bog....
in my opinion, these electro bikes are just uncool as...
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Don't get me wrong. I have no interest in owning or riding one either. But to say that a bike with specs that match up with a 450 wouldn't work as well as a 450 is silly. Like DJ noted chassis and suspension technology is really lacking on these bikes, I would imagine that is the biggest thing holding this bike back.
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For those that havnt seen it, check this out.




Whether you want to admit it or not, the future of motocross is electric. It might take 20-30 more years but electric bikes will takeover! oh yeh, your van/pickup/race hauler will be electric too! :wink:
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DK662 wrote:265 pounds holy shit! I would love to see what the power curve is. Anyone found data other than the manufacturer specifications?
The horsepower goes linearly from 0 at 0 rpm, up to 54 hp at 4000rpm, then stays at 54 hp until it reaches its max rpm, whatever that might be. The torque is 68 ft-lb from 0 rpm to 4000 rpm, then drops by half everytime you double the rpm. So it follows a hyperbolic curve after 4000 rpm, and will hit 34 ft-lb at 8000 rpm
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BuddyTheElf wrote:For those that havnt seen it, check this out.




Whether you want to admit it or not, the future of motocross is electric. It might take 20-30 more years but electric bikes will takeover! oh yeh, your van/pickup/race hauler will be electric too! :wink:
These bikes are good, but not that good. That is an incredible sandbagging video, A class rider suddenly going to race C class (This was raised on Thumpertalk when this video was posted by the Zero MX guys, some guys local to the area looked up who the rider was)

I think electric motors will be kick arse once they have batteries that last longer than a fat mans fart.

No clutch needed because you have full torque from 0 RPM? Yes I'll have one of them thanks.

The thing that would weird me out is being able to just hear the suspension / chassis banging around, when you don't have a motor revving it's tits off you can hear all the *CLUNK* etc when you smash through bumps. Kinda the same vein of thought that lead the Prius' engineers to have to redesign the wing mirrors, as they could hear a heap of wind noise from them once getting rid of the combustion motor.
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Phathry25 wrote:Don't get me wrong. I have no interest in owning or riding one either. But to say that a bike with specs that match up with a 450 wouldn't work as well as a 450 is silly. Like DJ noted chassis and suspension technology is really lacking on these bikes, I would imagine that is the biggest thing holding this bike back.
I've seen on a website a Honda CR-F with an electronic motor. I think in the end it goes again over the known bike brands.
Still hope that i dont live until the rider fields are full of these electronic bikes, would be just too much. The shock a few year back, as the 4 strokes came was gnar, i cant survive another revolution! :lol: :lol:
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Andy_Hack wrote:
Phathry25 wrote:Don't get me wrong. I have no interest in owning or riding one either. But to say that a bike with specs that match up with a 450 wouldn't work as well as a 450 is silly. Like DJ noted chassis and suspension technology is really lacking on these bikes, I would imagine that is the biggest thing holding this bike back.
I've seen on a website a Honda CR-F with an electronic motor. I think in the end it goes again over the known bike brands.
Still hope that i dont live until the rider fields are full of these electronic bikes, would be just too much. The shock a few year back, as the 4 strokes came was gnar, i cant survive another revolution! :lol: :lol:
I'd like to second that!
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jbrandmx85 wrote:
Andy_Hack wrote:
Phathry25 wrote:Don't get me wrong. I have no interest in owning or riding one either. But to say that a bike with specs that match up with a 450 wouldn't work as well as a 450 is silly. Like DJ noted chassis and suspension technology is really lacking on these bikes, I would imagine that is the biggest thing holding this bike back.
I've seen on a website a Honda CR-F with an electronic motor. I think in the end it goes again over the known bike brands.
Still hope that i dont live until the rider fields are full of these electronic bikes, would be just too much. The shock a few year back, as the 4 strokes came was gnar, i cant survive another revolution! :lol: :lol:
I'd like to second that!
3 me... :lol: Anyways the 2 stroke class would be Vintage, 4 stroke oldschool, Electric new age
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DJ99X wrote:
DK662 wrote:265 pounds holy shit! I would love to see what the power curve is. Anyone found data other than the manufacturer specifications?
The horsepower goes linearly from 0 at 0 rpm, up to 54 hp at 4000rpm, then stays at 54 hp until it reaches its max rpm, whatever that might be. The torque is 68 ft-lb from 0 rpm to 4000 rpm, then drops by half everytime you double the rpm. So it follows a hyperbolic curve after 4000 rpm, and will hit 34 ft-lb at 8000 rpm
Here is a rough representation against a KTM 450 SXF

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NOPE THAT WOULD NEVER GO THROUGH THE SAND AS WELL AS A 450!!!!!

I am curious to see how many RPM the motor can turn. Obviously without a gear box it is pretty dang important.
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I'd say it would at least get to 8000 RPM. The BRD Redshift goes to twice the RPM of it's peak HP

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