last time i checked "mx" stood for motocross not motorcycle. so your argument of "mx simulator" means motorcycle doesn't hold much water.. i ride quads obviously, but i raced bikes on mx sim for 2 years and love it because of the physics, i played mx vs atv games and always ride bikes on there also because they model quad physics so horribly. guys that have such a closed mind and wont try something different, like actually ride a quad aggressively, think that is how quads actually handle so they bitch and complain about quads,, and guys that bitch and complain that you don't need balance to ride one are way off because we are not talking about riding down to the store for a drink.. yeah of course anyone can do that, but not everyone can put fast laps down on a track with a quad.. The days of being "that guy" of calling atvs "couches" and just being a hater are long gone..you missed the boat,, back in the early 2000s yeah it was funny and cool to be "that guy".. this day and age just be happy that its in the dirt and has a motor..there's enuff challenges of keeping riding areas and tracks open, so talking shit about quads with your side ways metal mulisha hat and white sunglasses is not helping the problem. believe me the guy on the raptor/banshee spinning donuts in the parking lot throwing rocks all over your truck..is just as big of douche as you with your white sunglasses and true quad riders hate that guy just as much as you do. rant done.