First Person Revision
Posted: Fri May 19, 2017 10:47 am
So I'm sure this has been brought up a few times, but that's okay.
I started playing back in 2013 and have only been a casual player up until recently.
When I started play Sim I forced myself to learn 1st person over 3rd. It made the game more enjoyable for me personally.
I never saw it as an issue until recently now that I've started to get a little bit more competitive.
90% of the guys I play with all play in 3rd person, and they are quite fast. Some of the best amateurs in the game I'd say as well as a couple pros.
It's hard not to notice that the majority plays in 3rd person for a reason. It just seems to have the advantage over 1st person. Most of the guys can't even play 1st person at all after playing 3rd without getting a headache or dizzy.
I know that both "views" have pro's and con's over one another. But I along with many others, even most of the 3rd person guys would agree that 3rd has the advantage over 1st.
I'll list a few things that I think gives the major advantage and what I feel like should be revised to make a more level playing field for the two styles.
#1. The major advantage of seeing your surroundings/opponents easier, clearer and sooner.
#2. The field of view for whats ahead. (Jumps. downed people, upcoming corners on the other side of hills, etc.)
#3. The MAJOR speed factor between the two. 3rd is almost like slo-motion compared to 1st
#4. The amount of screen shake/jarring. In 3rd person, just the bike/rider is moving when hitting bumps/jumps VS, 1st the ENTIRE screen moves.
#5. The ability to watch and keep better control of the ENTIRE bike (Rear end, sides, suspension). Other than just the front wheel.
I know this will be argued by many, and I know there is probably quite a few more things some could add to this list. BUT I feel in my opinion that these things could be revised to help balance the two. Here are some ideas/suggestions that I have in my head to help level the playing field.
For #1. Maybe add some type of a "mirror" option that could be used by a key/button. That way it's not ALWAYS there, but could be set up to a button OR key and while riding could be used to check behind you from time to time. (Just like looking back) If the idea of a "mirror" in a motocross game doesn't sit well. Maybe even just have the screen flip from front to back as if you were just turning your head around to check behind you.
#2. I don't really have a solution for this. Considering if you're riding first person, you're obviously going to be lower to the ground. Therefore it's just something to live with. Which is fine. Just wanted to point out the advantage.
#3. The speed I feel like should def be adjusted. I feel like either it should be slowed down a bit in 1st person OR it should be adjusted in 3rd to give the same feel as one another. The fact that people get headaches while riding in first because everything is moving so fast makes it clear that there is a large difference between the two.
#4. The screen jarring on even just mildly rough tracks is just ridiculous compared to 3rd person. Something should be done to reduce the amount of jarring the screen is doing. I know that it's a game, but hell this game in 1st person rides MUCH rougher than real life riding. Making it much harder to see and keep up with what's going on. I really feel like it should be revised to smooth it out even just a little bit. ONLY the bike and rider moves in 3rd, I feel that is very much unbalanced.
#5. This is another like #2 I can't think of a solution to this considering you can't feel in a game like you can in a real life situation. So it's just a part of playing in 1st person that I'm not sure could be fixed or revised. Just another disadvantage compared to third. ( Which obviously in 1st person you have the advantage over 3rd of seeing the front wheel all the time.) BUT none of the rest of the bike.
ONCE again, I know there will be disagreements on the advantages on the two different views and I'm not here whining. BUT these are just things that I feel could be changed without hurting the game in anyway. I'm going to continue to play in 1st person, as I stated before it makes the game a lot more enjoyable for myself. BUT I do think it should be looked over. For all of the guys that LOVE the 1st person the way it is, it could be set as an option for you in the graphics settings. You could toggle off "head balancing" OR " Speed Control" etc etc.
One other thing that I think would be really interesting is for a way for 1st person or 3rd to be stuck in either position and to be monitored. (Sorry I can't really think of how to say it.) BUT another words have to to where if someone hosts a race they can put the view for EVERYONE in the race to be the same. EITHER 1st person view OR 3rd person view. This way series could be held for different playing styles to level out the playing field further. For example you could run a "1st Person Outdoors Series" for 1st person riders only. OR do the same for 3rd person riders as well. I think that would be a super fun addition to the game that could really add a variety of racing.
Anyways, feel free to discuss here what you think or any other suggestions you might have.
Thanks!
I started playing back in 2013 and have only been a casual player up until recently.
When I started play Sim I forced myself to learn 1st person over 3rd. It made the game more enjoyable for me personally.
I never saw it as an issue until recently now that I've started to get a little bit more competitive.
90% of the guys I play with all play in 3rd person, and they are quite fast. Some of the best amateurs in the game I'd say as well as a couple pros.
It's hard not to notice that the majority plays in 3rd person for a reason. It just seems to have the advantage over 1st person. Most of the guys can't even play 1st person at all after playing 3rd without getting a headache or dizzy.
I know that both "views" have pro's and con's over one another. But I along with many others, even most of the 3rd person guys would agree that 3rd has the advantage over 1st.
I'll list a few things that I think gives the major advantage and what I feel like should be revised to make a more level playing field for the two styles.
#1. The major advantage of seeing your surroundings/opponents easier, clearer and sooner.
#2. The field of view for whats ahead. (Jumps. downed people, upcoming corners on the other side of hills, etc.)
#3. The MAJOR speed factor between the two. 3rd is almost like slo-motion compared to 1st
#4. The amount of screen shake/jarring. In 3rd person, just the bike/rider is moving when hitting bumps/jumps VS, 1st the ENTIRE screen moves.
#5. The ability to watch and keep better control of the ENTIRE bike (Rear end, sides, suspension). Other than just the front wheel.
I know this will be argued by many, and I know there is probably quite a few more things some could add to this list. BUT I feel in my opinion that these things could be revised to help balance the two. Here are some ideas/suggestions that I have in my head to help level the playing field.
For #1. Maybe add some type of a "mirror" option that could be used by a key/button. That way it's not ALWAYS there, but could be set up to a button OR key and while riding could be used to check behind you from time to time. (Just like looking back) If the idea of a "mirror" in a motocross game doesn't sit well. Maybe even just have the screen flip from front to back as if you were just turning your head around to check behind you.
#2. I don't really have a solution for this. Considering if you're riding first person, you're obviously going to be lower to the ground. Therefore it's just something to live with. Which is fine. Just wanted to point out the advantage.
#3. The speed I feel like should def be adjusted. I feel like either it should be slowed down a bit in 1st person OR it should be adjusted in 3rd to give the same feel as one another. The fact that people get headaches while riding in first because everything is moving so fast makes it clear that there is a large difference between the two.
#4. The screen jarring on even just mildly rough tracks is just ridiculous compared to 3rd person. Something should be done to reduce the amount of jarring the screen is doing. I know that it's a game, but hell this game in 1st person rides MUCH rougher than real life riding. Making it much harder to see and keep up with what's going on. I really feel like it should be revised to smooth it out even just a little bit. ONLY the bike and rider moves in 3rd, I feel that is very much unbalanced.
#5. This is another like #2 I can't think of a solution to this considering you can't feel in a game like you can in a real life situation. So it's just a part of playing in 1st person that I'm not sure could be fixed or revised. Just another disadvantage compared to third. ( Which obviously in 1st person you have the advantage over 3rd of seeing the front wheel all the time.) BUT none of the rest of the bike.
ONCE again, I know there will be disagreements on the advantages on the two different views and I'm not here whining. BUT these are just things that I feel could be changed without hurting the game in anyway. I'm going to continue to play in 1st person, as I stated before it makes the game a lot more enjoyable for myself. BUT I do think it should be looked over. For all of the guys that LOVE the 1st person the way it is, it could be set as an option for you in the graphics settings. You could toggle off "head balancing" OR " Speed Control" etc etc.
One other thing that I think would be really interesting is for a way for 1st person or 3rd to be stuck in either position and to be monitored. (Sorry I can't really think of how to say it.) BUT another words have to to where if someone hosts a race they can put the view for EVERYONE in the race to be the same. EITHER 1st person view OR 3rd person view. This way series could be held for different playing styles to level out the playing field further. For example you could run a "1st Person Outdoors Series" for 1st person riders only. OR do the same for 3rd person riders as well. I think that would be a super fun addition to the game that could really add a variety of racing.
Anyways, feel free to discuss here what you think or any other suggestions you might have.
Thanks!