2018 [EU region] Supercross series by MXSEMF - Protest thread

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2018 [EU region] Supercross series by MXSEMF - Protest thread

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Protest thread

ↂ Demos
Demos for each can be found under each round's page over at http://mxsemf.com/.

ↂ Rules
You can check the rulebook here


ↂ Penaltys general recap

Warning :
Rd1:
Dom AGGETT, #18 (23904)
Ludvig BOTTEN, #185 (2478)

Rd2:
Maxime TISON, #51 (4820)

Rd3:
...

Rd4:
Tyler FRYE, #57 (5597)
Florian KANE, #167 (9118)

Rd5:
Lee BRADLEY, #93 (20015)

Rd6:
Tristan BOTTERAM, #299 (16970)
Colton MITCHELL, (6767)
Alexis LECLAIR, #90 (6454)
Devin DAVIS, #82 (4275)

Rd7:
Alanas SAULYS, #22 (13377)
Neal WELLS, #122 (5199)
Fabian GOLEO, #16 (23993)

Rd8:
...

Rd9:
Alexis LECLAIR, #90 (6454) - agressive riding [2nd warning]
Jordan MOXEY, #12 (18285) - unsafe riding
Elliot PHILLIPS, #517 (18161) - agressive riding
Victor NICOT, #5 (8423) - unsafe riding
Victor NICOT, #5 (8423) - unsafe restart after crash [2nd warning]

Rd10:
Rico DE LAAT, #45 (19896)

Rd11:
...

Rd12:
Rico DE LAAT, #45 (19896) - Unsafe riding
Oscar ANDERSSON, #529 (7605) - Unsafe riding
Rush CHAPMAN , #29 (14794) - Unsafe riding
Christian REED, #354 (9202) - Unsafe riding

Rd13:
...

Rd14:
Jordan MOXEY, #12 (18285) - Unsafe riding

Rd15:
Jordan MOXEY, #12 (18285)

Docked :
Rd1:
...

Rd2:
...

Rd3:
...

Rd4:
...

Rd5:
Lee BRADLEY, #93 (20015) - 3 positions
Noa VANDENDAELE, #507 (21545)- 5 positions
Oscar ANDERSSON, #529 (7605) - 7 positions

Rd6:
...

Rd7:
...

Rd8:
...

Rd9:
...

Rd10:
...

Rd11:
...

Rd12:
...

Rd13:
Walter GEBHARDT, #85 - 1 position

Rd14:
...

Rd15:
...

DQ :
Rd1:
Victor NICOT, #5 (8423)
Timm FRIEDRICHS, #59 (19915)
Ryan TURNER, #23 (17899)
Martin LUNDQUIST, #727 (15811)
Yoni BREYSSE, #120 (22082)
Pablo BODINEAU, #718 (18887)

Rd2:
Harvey ISBORNE #155 (5364)

Rd3:
Kevin HERGLE , #333 (22217) - From main event 2

Rd4:
Samuel- LEMARCHAND, #926 (23455)

Rd5:
Rhys HARRIS, #154 (18426)
Rush CHAPMAN , #29 (14794)

Rd6:
Oscar ANDERSSON, #529 (7605)
Emilien MABRU, #39 (2141)

Rd7:
...

Rd8:
...

Rd9:
...

Rd10:
Jake KAZARIAN (25653)

Rd11:
Jules KERNAONET, #710 (22015)

Rd12:
...

Rd13:
...

Rd14:
Walter GEBHARDT, #85 (12235)

Rd15:
...

Suspended :
Rd1:
Victor NICOT, #5 (8423) - 2 rounds
Ryan TURNER, #23 (17899) - 2 rounds
Martin LUNDQUIST, #727 (15811) - 2 rounds
Yoni BREYSSE, #120 (22082) - 1 round
Pablo BODINEAU, #718 (18887) - 1 round

Rd2:
Egert VELTSON, #901 (3330) - 2 rounds
Frederik LANGAGERGAARD, #30 (12475) - 2 rounds (applied after rd 3)
Stephane GUIDO, #15 (18324) - 1 round
Harvey ISBORNE #155 (5364) - Season ban

Rd3:
...

Rd4:
Jannik MULLER, #50 (13160) - 1 round
Jonathan HUGHES, #33(9262) - 1 round

Rd5:
Rhys HARRIS, #154 (18426) - Season Ban + License downgrade

Rd6:
Emilien MABRU, #39 (2141) - 1 round
Alexis LECLAIR, #90 (6454) - 1 round
Jannik MULLER #50 (13160) - 1 round
Javier RUIZ, #942 (1011) - 1 round
Kevin HERGLE , #333 (22217) - 1 round
Oscar ANDERSSON, #529 (7605) - 1 round

Rd7:
Jonas NORDLI, #87 (7201) - 1 round
Fabian GOLEO, #16 (23993) - 1 round
Rasmus BALZER, #73 (11076) - 1 round
Jordan MOXEY, #12 (18285) - 1 round
Rush CHAPMAN , #29 (14794) - 3 rounds
Logan DEPATY, #56 (1915) - 3 rounds
Maxime TISON, #51 (4820) - 1 round
Frederik LANGAGERGAARD, #30 (12475) - 2 rounds

Rd8:
Dale MULLINS, #873 (15496) - unsafe riding - 2 rounds
Quentin VASSEUR, #233 (18522) - not respect on blue flag/unsafe riding - 1 round
Josh HAMILTON, #41 (8430) - making crash a leader under blue flag - 1 round
Romain SERANON, #- (18142) - not respect on blue flag/unsafe riding - 3 rounds

Rd9:
...

Rd10:
Jake KAZARIAN (25653) - 2 rounds
Senna DE SMAELE, #108 (17431)

Rd11:
Tyler LANG, #138 (14539) - 1 round
Rico DE LAAT, #45 (19896) - 1 round
Rush CHAPMAN , #29 (14794) - 1 round
Brendan RODGER, #215 (23004) - 1 round
Evan SINGLETARY, #170 (22667) - 5 rounds

Rd12:
Fred HEATHER, #13 (4686) - 1 round
Clement LANA, #32 (12257) - Suspended from SX
Alexander KERR, #913 (24454) - 2 rounds

Rd13:
...

Rd14:
Walter GEBHARDT, #85 (12235) - 1 round
Jonathan HUGHES, #33 (9262) - Rest of 2018

Rd15:
Corentin JULIAN, #42 (2233) - 1 round
Gaetan PICH, #117 (17009) - 2 rounds

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▀▄▀▄▀ Round 1 recap
Infos: Jesse MULLINS, #74 (4898) protested Dom AGGETT, #18 (23904)
Time : 7:20
Class: 450 Pro
Moto : 450 Main
Message : Dom Gets the blue bar at the start of the rhythm and then starts crossing over on the track until he goes under me and causes me to land on him
Gif (Jesse POV): https://gyazo.com/afe5befa981a96f6f53ed66c7b3a2f98
Gif (Dom POV): https://gyazo.com/a267ad576ed7f2816a4131fcff873df0
Verdict: Dom switches over from the right side of the track to the left side of the track and causes Jesse to land on him. Dom should have kept to his side until the leader had passed.
Penalty: Warning [Rulebook - section 2.2]


Infos: Jesse MULLINS, #74 (4898) protested Victor NICOT, #5 (8423)
Time : 12:13
Class : 450 Pro
Moto : 450 Main
Message : While in last place and being lapped Victor jumps the quad after the finish in traffic and lands on the back of me causing me to crash.
Gif (Jesse POV): https://gyazo.com/bcf18e351646cd828b2ba024d15bcd42
Gif (Nicot POV): https://gyazo.com/40da94dce25f81f2e9c06db407744363
Additional info: Nicot then proceeds to quad inside Shipley a few turns later and also takes him out (https://gyazo.com/6083ecd9da0debc6da0e61ffa5c41892).
Verdict: Nicot just launches the quad after being in last place and lands on Jesse.
Penalty: DQ + 2 round ban [Rulebook - section 2.2]


Ryan TURNER, #23 (17899) protested Timm FRIEDRICHS, #59 (19915)
Time : Start of 2nd lap
Class : 450 Pro
Moto : LCQ
Message : https://gyazo.com/f4edcad1693d5ddf6ba55a6ee726a288 Hits the big line on the first lap.
Gif (Ryan POV): https://gyazo.com/bfb1e579c842a2e763d8ec22c568d57d
Gif (Timm POV): https://gyazo.com/31b9fabc69523f37d0cc1f37539c9b09
Additional info: After watching the following little piece of the demo you can see that Timm and Ryan is battling back and forth while still keeping it pretty clean. However coming back onto the start Ryan full speed punts Timm (https://gyazo.com/3ed2394e8b668063bca20b6d328de347) then isn't very careful going back on track (https://gyazo.com/304006448a10e707a35500314a5d81fa). Probably ghosted going back onto the track, but no check up whatever.
Verdict: Timm shouldn't have gone for the quad on lap 1 when there was another rider in front of him. Ryan shouldn't have punted Timm and went back onto the track without looking.
Penalty: DQ for Timm "unsafe riding" [Rulebook - section 2.9] and DQ + 2 rounds ban for Ryan "unsafe riding & aggressive riding" [Rulebook - section 2.9]


Infos: Hugo CRESSENT, #621 (13991) protested Ludvig BOTTEN , #185 (2478)
Time : 0.05.00
Class : 250 West Pro
Moto : Lcq
Message : Ludvig took last gate in LCQ, maybe the 17th or more and try to go to inside in the first corner and make a big crash with 6 players. This actions was stupid because, even if he plays in first person or not, he saw us inside. (he haven't his real name)
Gif (Botten POV): https://gyazo.com/c00eecacba724bb0a32566f1fd6b7f79
Verdict: Botten should have gone wider or eventually checked up as there were a few riders inside him that had the inside line covered.
Penalty: Warning "unsafe riding" [Rulebook - section 2.9] + Warning "not using his real name" [Rulebook - section 3.1]


Infos: Damon WUYTS, #641 (21108) protested Martin LUNDQUIST, #727 (15811)
Time : 5 min 4 sec
Class : 450 Am
Moto : LCQ 450
Message : I passed a lapper on the start straight, the next cornor he toke me out. I was battlling for a spot in the main event. He took me out on purpose. Didn't make it to the main because of him. He took me out because his team mate was right behind me.
Gif: https://gyazo.com/b676c539ade685799529032fedc4d568
Additional info: While briefly looking through the LCQ if there was anything that had caused Martin to make the decision to punt Damon (which there wasn't), I also found Martin punting #832 https://gyazo.com/27c1bcab5ce0e134e13bb13f8b075dd0
Verdict: Martin went in for the punt on Damon completely intentional giving him no chance to progress to the main event. Also he went too deep on #832 where he should have realized he wasn't going to make it.
Penalty: DQ + 2 round ban unsafe riding [Rulebook - section 2.9]


Infos: Kevin HERGLE , #333 (22217) protested Pablo BODINEAU, #718 (18887)
Time : 08:15
Class : 250 am
Moto : main event
Message : 1 minute under blue flag doesn't respect it
Verdict: Pablo had a gap that was big enough not to interfer with Kevin's riding. Kevin could choose the lines he wanted to take.
Penalty: Nothing


Infos: Kevin HERGLE , #333 (22217) protested Pablo BODINEAU, #718 (18887)
Time : 10:29
Class : 250 am
Moto : main event
Message : 1min15 under blue flag
Verdict: Pablo had a gap that was big enough not to interfer with Kevin's riding. Kevin could choose the lines he wanted to take.
Penalty: Nothing


Infos: Kevin HERGLE , #333 (22217) protested Pablo BODINEAU, #718 (18887)
Time : 11:50
Class : 250 am
Moto : main event
Message : 35 sec under blue flag then come back into the track after a crash without watching
Verdict: Gap was big enough but the track re-entry was horrible.
Penalty: See later protest for the penalty


Infos: Kevin HERGLE , #333 (22217) protested Yoni BREYSSE, #120 (22082)
Time : 09:13
Class : 250 am
Moto : main event
Message : Crashed me under blue flag
Verdict: Race incident, Yoni got sketchy and Kevin got close to him.
Penalty: Noghing


Infos: Kevin HERGLE , #333 (22217) protested Yoni BREYSSE, #120 (22082)
Time : 09:28
Class : 250 am
Moto : main event
Message : Came back on the track after a crash to smash me
Gif: https://gyazo.com/b23b1f2c045296ef8662574df21a4694
Verdict: Kevin is already leaned to the right and when he passes Yoni he doesn't seem to change course. Yet Yoni re-entered the track very poorly.
Penalty: See later protest for the penalty


Infos: Kevin HERGLE , #333 (22217) protested Pablo BODINEAU, #718 (18887)
Time : 10:29
Class : 250 am
Moto : main event
Message : 1min15 under blue flag
Gif: https://gyazo.com/15d167a2da59b58ea8069b3f8d663595
Verdict: Pablo re-enters the track right in front of Kevin.
Penalty: See later protest for the penalty


Infos: Kevin HERGLE , #333 (22217) protested Yoni BREYSSE, #120 (22082)
Time : 10:32
Class : 250 am
Moto : main event
Message : In front of me in blue flag with -1 sec forward then crash me
Gif: https://gyazo.com/33e0585adc175ede98b68eb3594cdb57
Verdict: Kevin's line choice is very close to where Yoni is and unfortunately Kevin is catching Yoni's bike/rider.
Penalty: Nothing, race incident


Kevin HERGLE , #333 (22217) protested Pablo BODINEAU, #718 (18887)
Time : 13:29
Class : 250 am
Moto : main event
Message : 13 sec under blue flag < 1 sec in front without letting me pass
Verdict: Pablo is close enough to disturb Kevin's riding and shows no respect towards letting the leaders pass.
Penalty: DQ + 1 round ban for unsafe track re-entry and not moving for blue flag


Infos: Kevin HERGLE , #333 (22217) protested Yoni BREYSSE, #120 (22082)
Time : 13:43
Class : 250 am
Moto : main event
Message : 16 sec under blue flag < 1 sec in front without letting me pass
Verdict: Passing Kevin who is a lap ahead and not letting him back by despite being close to him.
Penalty: DQ + 1 round ban for unsafe track re-entry and not moving for blue flag
▀▄▀▄▀ Round 2 recap
Infos: Erik HAUGNESS, #68 (8855) protested Maxime TISON, #51 (4820)
Time : 2:45
Class : 450 Pro
Moto : LCQ
Message : I feel like this pass was a bit aggressive, and with the intention to take me out.
Gif (Erik POV): https://gyazo.com/9ee8f6934ddd822e7d32facd2f2f10d4
Gif (Tizz POV): https://gyazo.com/9ee8f6934ddd822e7d32facd2f2f10d4
Verdict: Tizz is coming in very hot and ends up shoving Erik over the berm. Erik didn't really have any room to defend himself.
Penalty: Warning for unsafe riding

Infos: Sabrina RITZLER, #773 (661) protested Egert VELTSON, #901 (3330)
Time : 3:56.8
Class : 450 Pro
Moto : LCQ
Message : Wasn't going to protest this because I thought it was just a mistake. But then I watched the demo and saw how he passed the leaders lapping him and went pinned into the whoops over the finish and made no attempt to stop before hitting me.
Gif: Part 1 - Part 2
Additional info: After seeing this, I looked upon Egert's race a bit further and saw a few other things. First this where Egert is blitzing the whoops clearly endangering the leaders as he in an uncontrolled manner flies by them after the whoop section. After taking Sabrina out, he continues being in the way for people wanting to lap him and not showing any sort of respect: part 1 - part 2
Verdict: Egert shows no respect and seem to try and sabotage the race in a small scale.
Penalty: 2 rounds ban for 2.2 Blue flag and 2.9 Unsafe riding

Infos: Maxime TISON, #51 (4820) protested Stephane GUIDO, #15 (18324)
Time : 4:57
Class : 450 Pro
Moto : LCQ
Message : I feel like this pass was a bit aggressive, and with the intention to take me out.
Gif (Guido POV): https://gyazo.com/da3ed17b4e951c4155d916fafeb67e53
Gif (Tizz POV): https://gyazo.com/3c7241161d21db7548f355f1b957abce
Additional info: This is a very risky move, if you are taking someone else and yourself out in this way, you will carry all the blame and most likely receive some penalty.
Additional info: After review something else, I came across this, a similar move by Guido that ends up in a t-bone.
Verdict: Guido's move on Tizz wouldn't have caused any penalty, but seeing the same move again that ends up in a t-bone will.
Penalty: 1 round ban for unsafe riding

Infos: Noa VANDENDAELE, #507 (21545) protested Frederik LANGAGERGAARD, #30 (12475)
Time : 5:15:0
Class : 450 Pro
Moto : heat 1
Message : Frederik full gaz in the corner to cut Emilien
Gif (Fredrik): https://gyazo.com/393f4e5fc15218c84d1c81a8bc8496a7
Gif (Mabru): https://gyazo.com/7320ae459f025e90f3bce0afdba87f39
Verdict: Fredrik straight up t-bones Emilien, not allowed.
Penalty: 2 rounds ban for unsafe riding

Infos: Jake BERRYMAN, #139 (21353) protested Rhys HARRIS, #154 (18426) (meant to protest Harvey ISBORNE #155 (5364))
Time : 12:09.5
Class : Free
Moto : Main event
Message : This guy was crashing everyone the whole race and ruined me from a 4th place finish.
Additional info: Bad start for Harvey. Goes from last to 5th at one point, then it all goes downhill. Punts (or bad riding)
Thing 1, Thing 2, Thing (punt attempt) 3, Thing 4, Thing 5 (punt attempt, while presumably ghosted), Thing 6
Verdict: Harvey's riding is nothing short of stupid and unintelligent. We don't need riders that rides like this racing.
Penalty: DQ + Season ban
▀▄▀▄▀ Round 3 recap
Infos: Yoni BREYSSE, #120 (22082) protested Kevin HERGLE , #333 (22217)
Time : 3.53.4
Class : 250 Amateur
Moto : main 2
Message : Kevin Hergle rentre et reviens en plein milieu de la piste et me gene . https://gyazo.com/abc3915aabc834319455b28e1e19f6ca https://gyazo.com/79d3d684437614b61169e5bd1e9f4dc8
Additional info: English, please...
Gif (Kevin): https://gyazo.com/d10e9fe775030b5b84b267248cefad6e
Gif (Yoni): https://gyazo.com/6dfb06411e6e4a32fa5af58d1c6b912d
Verdict: Kevin wobbles and goes off track. Would have been a good track re-entry unless Kevin had gone into the middle of the track. Now instead he took down Yoni.
Penalty: DQ from main event 2
▀▄▀▄▀ Round 4 recap
Infos: Flo LUCASSON, #53 (3563) protested Tyler FRYE, #57 (5597)
Time : 5:11
Class : 250 pro
Moto : Heat 1
Message : That t-bone. No words just look
Gif (Flo): https://gyazo.com/d8d2e251db61424cb506a9c0a659bb2e
Gif (Tyler): https://gyazo.com/7319300d7947559259a038a9522beead
Verdict: Tyler claims his throttle got stuck wide open, hence the hit. It's a weak argument that is commonly used trying to mask takeouts. Both riders were far down in the field and it's unlikely that either of them would've made the main.
Penalty: Warning for unsafe riding

Infos: Devin DAVIS, #82 (4275) protested Jannik MULLER, #50 (13160)
Time : 1:20
Class : 450 pro
Moto : LCQ
Message : I got a good run on Jannik down the straightaway and positioned myself to pass him on the inside, we got close but made no contact, and he slams the brakes then holds it wide open into the side of me causing both of us to crash. Blatant takeout.
Gif (Devin): https://gyazo.com/c5e370a54adfde7f25b4cc9cc96222a6
Gif (Jannik): https://gyazo.com/1f93d472d4cef80e6a9e94f1a4f3a10d
Verdict: Devin passes Jannik cleanly without anyone going down. However Jannik's "pass" back is a straight t-bone. Looking at how Jannik accelerates, there was no intention to actually make the turn, but instead to punt Devin.
Penalty: 1 round ban for unsafe/aggressive riding

Infos: Lee BRADLEY, #93 (20015) protested Axel CHOTIN, #143 (19918)
Time : 0.58
Class : 250 pro
Moto : MAIN
Message : this pass was very aggressive ,he basically used me to slow down and turn, while taking me out.
Gif (Lee): https://gyazo.com/4dd0fe30ed393246c867d7513c1ce4d7
Gif (Alex): https://gyazo.com/6de8ecc5721af68911a53762f0d80117
Verdict: Lee is sketchy throughout the rhythm section and Alex comes in hot inside of him. Alex might not have expected Lee to cut down so far in the berm, as it's not a very big hit. Lee unfortunately gets the short end of the stick when he gets legs off.
Penalty: Nothing - race incident

Infos: Ben SEABURG, #24 (15153) protested Mats ORSTAD, #176 (8878)
Time : 7:44
Class : 250 pro
Moto : Main Event
Message : Mats seen I made a mistake and decided to not brake for the sand. So he was basically flat out and sent the jump and landed on me.
Gif (Ben): https://gyazo.com/75c1e9f2cfa2e461df24617d93b40762
Gif (Mats): https://gyazo.com/6824da3c7b1c4ef36b9bf085e74c1c50
Verdict: All 3 riders that battled for 2nd place made mistakes throughout that section.
Penalty: Nothing - Race incident

Infos: Ben SEABURG, #24 (15153) protested Jonathan HUGHES, #33(9262)
Time : 14:46
Class : 250 pro
Moto : Main Event
Message : Jonathan was a lapper and I was coming up to lap him. He stayed in front of me for half a lap and held me up quite a bit.
Gif: https://gyazo.com/44789de491491c5c2e231a73ec75d2cf
Verdict: Hughes is far down the field and being lapped. He is not moving for people lapping him and continues to race as if he'd been in a battle with them. At one occasion he also clips Holden Cote's front wheel when he made a mistake, due to not checking up and keeps battling the riders lapping him. Looking at the Gif, we can see that Holden Cote made it right up to his rear wheel without Jonathan moving. A good rule is to start moving over when the gap is 1s, and really move over when it's around 0.5s, as then you're close enough to directly interfere with the riders around you.
Penalty: 1 week ban for Blue flag

Infos: Rico DE LAAT, #45 (19896) protested Florian KANE, #167 (9118)
Time : 7:36
Class : 450 pro
Moto : heat 2
Message : Unsafe re-entry and he took me down!
Gif (Rico): https://gyazo.com/629533f7606def6df4bcf2a610843f5d
Gif (Florian): https://gyazo.com/629533f7606def6df4bcf2a610843f5d
Verdict: Florian goes off track, very gently enters the track, but unfortunately gets into the middle of the track.
Penalty: Warning - Unsafe track re-entry

Infos: Jens ÖSTERMAN, #892 (7363) protested Samuel- LEMARCHAND, #926 (23455)
Time : last lap last turn
Class : 250 free
Moto : main event
Message : Rider is not respecting blue flag and runs in to player lapping him.
Gif (Jens): https://gyazo.com/86b937aee13a4c5ab5c0cec0e36615a5
Gif (Samuel): https://gyazo.com/f53fca16d25e553370d0c4d8969eacb8
Verdict: Samuel should have been more careful and not pushed that hard.
Penalty: DQ for Unsafe riding
▀▄▀▄▀ Round 5 recap
Infos: Alanas SAULYS, #22 (13377) protested Rush CHAPMAN , #29 (14794)
Time : 3:44
Class : 450 pro
Moto : heat 1
Message : decided to quad supercross triple when he had riders in front and caused us both to go down.
Gif (Alanas): https://gyazo.com/8c8442bc91fc6f2e74a9edadffe242ce
Gif (Rush): https://gyazo.com/37302b7b8e0e84426dfa516be682356b
Verdict: Rush is jumping a big and stupid line which he shouldn't have since he wasn't alone in the section. He ends up taking down Alanas too with this.
Penalty: DQ for unsafe riding back in the pack

Infos: Jake ROSE, #37 (16679) protested Rhys HARRIS, #154 (18426)
Time : 2:00
Class : 250 pro
Moto : Main
Message : https://gyazo.com/3a5009e80c50c47eac0a747d8214fec3 Rhys Harris decides to kill this dude on the whoops for no reason
Gif: https://gyazo.com/0813f325189ede0319d9a934b8d88cc2
Verdict:
Penalty: See on last protest for Rhys

Infos: Jake ROSE, #37 (16679) protested Rhys HARRIS, #154 (18426)
Time : 12:08
Class : 250 pro
Moto : Main
Message : Sat AFK on the race track https://gyazo.com/4b8818a96b76e5ff3816fc3586f2cb13
Gif: https://gyazo.com/7e9d8abd4b87a9f08411e07cf472e6c1
Verdict: Rhys is sitting still on the track presumably not being ghosted as he isn't recovering from a crash.
Penalty: See on last protest for Rhys
Verdict:
Penalty: See on last protest for Rhys

Infos: Connor LYNDS, #7 (17192) protested Rhys HARRIS, #154 (18426)
Time : See below
Class : 250
Moto : Main
Message : 1:55 - Rhys punts someone 11:05 - brake checks a leader and pulls wheelie down start straight 12:00 - goes afk in middle of track 12:34 - goes afk again and causes a crash 14:15 - more wheelies 16:30 - bad lapper
Gif: 11:05, Brake checks someone then goes on tojump in front of 2 leaders

Infos: Jake ROSE, #37 (16679) protested Rhys HARRIS, #154 (18426)
Time : 0:00
Class : 250
Moto : MAIN
Message : While still racing he types in Jesse Mullins Twitch chat saying 'I will take someone out for the stream' im guessing this is when he was AFK on the dragons back. https://i.gyazo.com/3142d8389b6948054a6 ... 4bf9f0.jpg
Verdict:
Penalty: Can't verify that it was Rhys typing since it's an external platform

Infos: Jake ROSE, #37 (16679) protested Rhys HARRIS, #154 (18426)
Time : 16:29.4 16:50.4
Class : 250 pro
Moto : MAIN
Message : Rhys lets logan go through then races me while im battling with logan for 2nd on last lap Part 1 ; https://gyazo.com/ac4af6722ab2638237048f9f8d1129c0 Part 2 ; https://gyazo.com/b92b3970a83dc9626b90d21d2fa51d1c Part ; https://gyazo.com/7ba625b0803f12b
Gif: Going down start straight slow in the main line pt1 - pt2, crashing while wheeling down the start straight, launching the triple behind riders, let's Logan past but not Jake and eventually takes Jake down pt1 - pt2 - pt3
Verdict: Rhys clearly stopped caring about the race a bit in, wheeling, doing big lines and clearly interfering with the racing. Short said, doing a lot of thing that shouldn't have been done.
Penalty: DQ + Banned for the rest of SX + Downgraded license in order to be unable to race pro

Infos: Benoit KRAWIEC, #43 (10380) protested Connor LYNDS, #7 (17192)
Time : 3min 30sec
Class : 450 pro
Moto : 2
Message : I protest on Connor for aggressive riding on me and brings down me. Action at 3min30
Gif (Benoit): https://gyazo.com/7f563de4dff8aa83456e14438914a825
Gif (Connor): https://gyazo.com/4b0ae868c3d5a55255f4c05939d7531a
Verdict: Connor jumps slightly too far
Penalty: Nothing, racing incident

Infos: Jeremy HINNERS, #624 (4252) protested Davino BRUNEEL, #70 (23725)
Time : 18:15
Class : 450
Moto : Main Event
Message : Davino made an unsafe track re entry after the whoop section and then stopped in the middle of the track while I was lapping him, causing me to crash.
Gif: track re-entry - crash
Verdict: Davino's track re-entry isn't super pretty, but he's quite far away from Jeremy not to really affect him. Davino holds his line after the berm going slowly, Jeremy then runs into the back of him.
Penalty: Nothing, racing incident

Infos: Philip BULL, #62 (13571) protested Lee BRADLEY, #93 (20015)
Time : 11:24
Class : 250
Moto : main
Message : He had the blue flag since the start straight and could have let me pass him in the first turn, I tried to cut under him over the single expecting him to jump outside and let me go by but instead he decided to roll it and cut left where i wanted to go.
Gif (Lee): https://gyazo.com/2b8a377b0f241f17c781690ad8b955c3
Gif (Philip): https://gyazo.com/8236dcb111437857e94df15aa866fcc7
Verdict: Lee had a lot of good chances to move, but ended up taking down Phil.
Penalty: Docked 3 positions + warning for blue flag

Infos: Jamie NEEDHAM, #301 (23256) protested Oscar ANDERSSON, #529 (7605)
Time : Last lap last corner
Class : 250 free
Moto : main
Message : A completely stupid take out on the last corner which was basically a flat out punt and resulted in us both going down. Dont understand why people cant be clean. The take out was pointless as he just hit me on full chat.
Gif (Jamie): https://gyazo.com/5e82bf9d33563a1c6c3ee0023f581114
Gif (Oscar): https://gyazo.com/9dbc114102af383f65897a72a91cc3f7
Picture - impact: https://gyazo.com/292b2473a69001baf618f65d2f50f1a4
Verdict: Oscar desperately punts Jamie for the position.
Penalty: Oscar will be docked 7 positions for his actions

Infos: Logan ERLEWEIN, #909 (20847) protested Noa VANDENDAELE, #507 (21545)
Time : 9.18.0
Class : 250
Moto : FINALE
Message :
Gif: https://gyazo.com/d4a41305f5c0a6ed0be3ef9d04a71398
Verdict: Next time, fill out a message. Noa clearly takes out Logan for seemingly no reason and is neither able to ride away smoothly.
Penalty: Noa is docked 5 positions for his action
▀▄▀▄▀ Round 6 recap
Infos: Jonathan HUGHES, #33 (9262) protested Tristan BOTTERAM, #299 (16970)
Time : start
Class : 250 pro
Moto : Main
Message : He can clearly see i have the inside and yet still decides to go full speed and wreck me and 3 others this isnt the only time he has done this its just not smart riding and ruins peoples races
Gif (Jonathan): https://gyazo.com/8aabfd66d5ac1b397901e52930038897
Gif (Tristan): https://gyazo.com/6783a7e7ca7b833bb1e521803d03d3b4
Verdict: Depending on if you play in 1st or 3rd person, you can or can't "clearly" see that Jonathan had the inside. Early in the start Tristan did have the wheel on Jonathan. Tristan also have a guy on the outside where he's claimed into a pile-up.
Penalty: Warning, be more careful in the start

Infos: Hunter ROOT, #2 (8752) protested Emilien MABRU, #39 (2141)
Time : 12:45
Class : 450 pro
Moto : Main
Message : Blue bar Makes me crash.
Gif: https://gyazo.com/e83cdac89d8a55a2f8a6d61a9124a867
Verdict: Emilien has a blue flag for about a minute, where Hunter is at most 1.4s behind, while the gap is around 0.5s a big chunk of the time. Emilien directly interferes with the racing as Hunter has to be cautious of him. The crash is caused as Emilien checks up a little, which leads Hunter to check up even more as a precaution and he's hit from behind. Emilien also takes no action to try and let Hunter by.
Penalty - Emilien Mabru: 1 round ban + DQ for Blue flag and unsafe riding
Penalty - Colton Mitchell: Warning - unsafe riding, keep distance to leaders

Infos: Hunter ROOT, #2 (8752) protested Alexis LECLAIR, #90 (6454)
Time : 18:40.8
Class : 450 pro
Moto : Main
Message : he crashes me.
Gif (Hunter):https://gyazo.com/6a101f0a8400761adbd44f3b4469e902
Gif (Alexis): https://gyazo.com/f3a042a5463ab68565ad797947c50173
Verdict: They battle for position when Alexis grabs a handful and gets sketchy.
Penalty: Warning for unsafe riding

Matt AGGETT, #11 (15156) protested Alexis LECLAIR, #90 (6454)
Time : 45 seconds
Class : 450 pro
Moto : MAIN
Message : unsafe track entry causing me to crash
Gif: https://gyazo.com/8fe388554d104750fc82baeaf823a7cc
Verdict: Alexis track re-entry is terrible as he goes right into the middle of the track, then proceeds to eventually go all the way to the left and keeps blocking Matt until he goes down.
Penalty: 1 round suspension for bad track re-entry

Infos: Devin DAVIS, #82 (4275) protested , Jannik MULLER #50 (13160)
Time : 38 seconds
Class : 450 pro
Moto : Heat 2
Message : Jannik previously got protested for aggressive/dirty racing and was suspended for one round. Today was no different, and left me once again way over the berm with no option of avoiding/retaliating to the attempt.
Gif: https://gyazo.com/49bbe6f0dc2eaa505371186f0784aa57
Verdict: Jannik overshoots the landing of the last tabletop and is unable to break for the turn, which results in him t-boning.
Penalty: 1 round ban for unsafe riding

Infos: Jannik MULLER, #50 (13160) protested Devin DAVIS, #82 (4275)
Time : 05:03
Class : 450 Pro
Moto : Main
Gif (Jannik): https://gyazo.com/187a8dda0e5a265c74c447471699024e
Gif (Devin): https://gyazo.com/ba02adf7fc9868c87aef4061c0d03721
Message : Devin didn`t move for the blue flag and nearly made me fall
Verdict: Devin seems a bit confused as who's who and how close the leaders actually are. Devin bumps slightly into Jannik as he looses traction.
Penalty: Warning for unsafe riding

Infos: Kevin HERGLE , #333 (22217) protested Javier RUIZ, #942 (1011)
Time : 4:42
Class : 250 Am
Moto : heat 2
Message : PLEASE ADD A MESSAGE IN FUTURE PROTESTS
Gif: https://gyazo.com/fe7d69ec07a056be2bb9bfe93361e276
Verdict: Kevin went in and took down both of them a few turns before. Seemingly it's pretty even as they took each other out once.
Penalty: Both riders - 1 week suspension

Infos: Dalton DRING, #28 (29511) protested Oscar ANDERSSON, #529 (7605)
Time : 7:57
Class : 250 free
Moto : main
Message : at around 7 minuites and 57 seconds into the main event Oscar Andersson t-boned me on a clearly intentional take out and was not called for.
Gif: https://gyazo.com/6b2f6994bd8e5b94637fd934b94bed29
Verdict: This is the 2nd week in a row Oscar is protested for t-boning another rider. Oscar is sketchy and it may not be an entirely planned move, but Dalton is clearly getting killed.
Penalty: 1 round ban + DQ

Adrien PRIETO, #128 (20392) protested Kévin LEBRUN, #127 (21934)
Time : 4min06
Class : 450 Am
Moto : lcq
Message : Hello, i want to protest against kevin lebrun because he try a suicide attack and put me out of the race. Thanks to this crash he is qualified for the main but that was not fair to do this action. I hope you will suspend this guy for 1 or 2 rounds. Thanks
Gif (Kevin): https://gyazo.com/6e5c259e80e55e0b6f0525cab624b033
Gif (Adrien): https://gyazo.com/2de3e20973578bc804fb81aaf5c2e47b
Verdict: Both riders are sketchy and makes mistakes. Adrien cuts over the entire track and Kevin doesn't have a real chance to do something about it.
Penalty: Nothing, race incident
▀▄▀▄▀ Round 7 recap
Infos: Alanas SAULYS, #22 (13377) protested Neal WELLS, #122 (5199)
Time : 7:34
Class : 250 pro
Moto : heat 1
Message : I know it was for the last transfer spot, but after reviewing the demo he literally tboned me. No way he could've stopped to make the corner. Good for him, it worked.
Verdict: Neal grabs a lot of speed and gets sketchy in the whoops. Unfortunately he can't stop in time and has Alanas flying off of the berm. However you can see that this was not a clear on punt as Neal shows no sign of increasing the harm of the bad situation. Though at 5:58 Alanas goes to the inside of Neal and pushes him wide and takes him out, while Alanas himself is getting legs off.
Penalty: Both riders: Warning for unsafe riding

Dom AGGETT, #18 (23904) protested Jonas NORDLI, #87 (7201)
Time : 5 SECONDS
Class : 250 pro
Moto : LCQ, but protest said MAIN
Message : NORDLI GETS A BAD START AND JUST DECIDES NOT TO STOP AND TAKE HALF THE RACE OUT OFF THE START
Verdict: Please put the right race in next time. Jonas gets a bad start and brakes far too late, ultimately affecting around 10 riders.
Penalty: 1 week suspension for unsafe riding

Infos: Alanas SAULYS, #22 (13377) protested Fabian GOLEO, #16 (23993)
Time : 0:53
Class : 250 pro
Moto : lcq
Message : well I don't know how to explain this. Caused big pileup
Verdict: Fabian jumps very much to the inside and t-bones Matt Burkeen, affecting a few more riders.
Penalty: 1 week suspension + warning for unsafe riding

Infos: Rico DE LAAT, #45 (19896) protested Rasmus BALZER, #73 (11076)
Time : 1.25
Class : 250 pro
Moto : main
Message : Rasmus is going straight for the take-out
Verdict: Rasmus goes for the takeout, carrying a bit much speed into the turn. However it's unsuccessful and he takes himself and Rico out.
Penalty: 1 week suspension for unsafe riding

Infos: Rico DE LAAT, #45 (19896) protested Jordan MOXEY, #12 (18285)
Time : 8:29
Class : 250 pro
Moto : main
Message : unsafe after crash
Verdict: Jordan slides around, then proceeds to blip the throttle resulting in a wheelie and Rico hits him. Jordan should have used the backup button to turn around.
Penalty: 1 week suspension

Infos: Jonathan HUGHES, #33 (9262) protested Rush CHAPMAN , #29 (14794)
Time : lap 10
Class : 450 pro
Moto : main event
Message : Just killed me and took himself down for no reason not needed
Gif: https://gyazo.com/6b23ac801ec48c2b5d433db51d07337b
Verdict: Rush goes in for the takeout and it ends up being unsuccessful as he goes down himself.
Penalty: 3 weeks suspension for unsafe riding

Infos: Devin DAVIS, #82 (4275) protested Logan DEPATY, #56 (1915)
Time : 1:50
Class : 250 pro
Moto : Main
Message : Logan went in for a pass and took out the both of us. He went into the corner with the intent of me going down (dirty riding).
Verdict: Logan goes in for the takeout on Devin but both riders ends up with legs off from Logan's move.
Penalty: See next protest

Infos: Matt AGGETT, #11 (15156) protested Logan DEPATY, #56 (1915)
Time : 10.49
Class : 250 pro
Moto : main
Message : Better description next time. Logan re-enters the track poorly.
Verdict: Logan goes right onto the track through the tough blocks without looking. Being in last with not no one too close to had no excuse to wait and let Matt by. Matt comes into the turn as Logans goes on, resulting in Matt running right into Logan causing them both to fall off.
Penalty: 3 weeks suspension for unsafe riding and bad track re-entry

Infos: Florian KANE, #167 (9118) protested Maxime TISON, #51 (4820)
Time : 1.45
Class : 250 pro
Moto : heat 1
Message : tison block pass kane volontairment
Verdict: Tison's move is very aggressive and both riders ends up with their front wheel stuck in the bales.
Penalty: 1 week suspension for unsafe riding

Florian KANE, #167 (9118) protested Frederik LANGAGERGAARD, #30 (12475)
Time : 3.30
Class : 250 pro
Moto : heat 1
Message : langagergaard block pass kane
Verdict: Florain struggles in the whoops and Frederik catches up. Frederik comes in too hot and punts Florian while he's going down himself.
Penalty: 2 weeks suspension for unsafe riding

Florian KANE, #167 (9118) protested Mads BALZER, #322 (10101)
Time : 0.50
Class : 250 pro
Moto : lcq 250
Message : Balzer block pass kane volontairement
Verdict: Mads bumps into Florian, but still rides away.
Penalty: Nothing - race incident
▀▄▀▄▀ Round 8 recap
Infos: Morgan FABREGUETTES, #38 (6062) protested Dale MULLINS, #873(15496)
Time : 5,45
Class : 250East
Moto : LCQ
Message : he laughs more in the chat and eliminates the qualification
EMF Crew's description : Dale is jumping in the opposite line and landed on Morgan, causing him to crash and lose a possible qualification.
Right after the incident he's writting in the chat, making fun of the incident and after the next restart, he's again trolling Morgan for the shit he did.
GIF (Dale POV) : https://i.gyazo.com/e083d06bf19a6a2ff8e ... d38f68.gif
Screen #1 : https://i.gyazo.com/be4bb6a6b9b0b3bd23d ... 27dfc8.jpg
Screen #2 : https://i.gyazo.com/00c759176b60363275c ... 4de9aa.png
VERDICT : Unsafe riding combined to an extreme non respect toward an other player who crashed because of him.
Not the 1st time, Dale is trolling people or admins, it's time to learn and grow up.
PENALTY : 2 weeks suspension for unsafe riding [Rulebook - section 2.9]

Infos: Matt AGGETT, #11 (15156) protested , Quentin VASSEUR, #233 (18522)
Time : 13.05 untill 14:50
Class : 250East
Moto : Main event
Message : has blue flag and jumping left to right then through 2 laps is still blue blar and only i only lets me past because he makes a mistakes and goes off track
EMF Crew's description : Quentin have the blue bar since 1 complete line but is in battle with Jay Turner for 13th. He chooses to not let the main line to Matt and crossjump into his line causing a crash.
When coming up after this crash, he still didn't let Matt pass and also Rico De Laat.
GIF (Matt POV) : https://i.gyazo.com/78d7c44ccf92aa89d8b ... 39697b.gif
VERDICT : Unsafe riding, no respect on blue and making a leader crash.
PENALTY : 1 week suspension for not respecting the blue flag and unsafe riding [Rulebook - section 2.2] | [Rulebook - section 2.9]

Infos: Rico DE LAAT, #45 (19896) protested Quentin VASSEUR, #233 (18522)
Time : start 13:38 / 14:19
Class : 250East
Moto : Main event
Message : Not moving for leaders. and holding his own battle with quentin
EMF Crew's description : See protest above.
GIF ( POV) : No GIF but here's the demo : http://mxsim.fr/demos/EMFR1-1519680718.mxdemo
VERDICT : See protest above.
PENALTY : See protest above.

Infos: Atom HOLM, #36 (9437) protested Alexis LECLAIR, #90 (6454)
Time : 1:35
Class : 450Pro
Moto : Heat 2
Message : As you can see Leclair finally catches up to me and (once again) without showing me a wheel or anything he goes straight for the kill. An overly aggressive move for a unneeded position.
EMF Crew's description : Alexis is making a normal pass for sx. Atom is letting the whole inside open to anyone, he could expect someone at his inside.
GIF (Atom POV) : https://i.gyazo.com/2c12e46155fbb2885f7 ... 33d279.gif
GIF (Alexis POV) : https://i.gyazo.com/505d108521ee0a6064f ... 39028b.gif
VERDICT : Nothing, race incident
PENALTY : No penalty

Infos: Hunter ROOT, #2 (8752) protested Jesse MULLINS, #74 (4898)
Time : 4:38
Class : 450Pro
Moto : Main event
Message : aggressive riding.
GIF (Jesse POV) : https://i.gyazo.com/2fbbd0dfbe820cd84e2 ... 974c30.gif
Screen : https://i.gyazo.com/b24a25354212c5c1da0 ... ad4c4d.jpg
VERDICT : Nothing, race incident
PENALTY : No penalty

Infos: Hunter ROOT, #2 (8752) protested Josh HAMILTON, #41 (8430)
Time : 5:18
Class : 450Pro
Moto : Main event
Message :
EMF Crew's description : Josh is crossjumping the finish jump causing a crash with Hunter
GIF (Josh POV) : https://i.gyazo.com/ad4eb4b935eb6793931 ... a69d00.gif
VERDICT : Unsafe riding and making crash a leader
PENALTY : 1 week suspension for making a leader crash under blue flag [Rulebook - section 2.2]

Infos: Steny LAMBERT, #- (24468) protested Romain SERANON, #- (18142)
Time : 5:00
Class : 250Novice
Moto : Main event
Message : romain seranon ne respecte pas les drapeu bleu et gache la course de tous le monde !!
EMF Crew's description : Romain is not respecting and even fighting with leaders the whole race
GIF ( POV) : No GIF but here's the demo : http://mxsim.fr/demos/EMFR1-1519761927.mxdemo
VERDICT : No respect on blue flag, causing leaders crash and unsafe riding.
PENALTY : 3 weeks suspensions for not respecting the blue flag and unsafe riding [Rulebook - section 2.2] | [Rulebook - section 2.9]
▀▄▀▄▀ Round 9 recap
Infos: Jesse MULLINS, #74 (4898) protested Alexis LECLAIR, #90 (6454)
Time : 0:05
Class : 450Pro
Moto : Main Event 1
Message : Leclair rides inside the bales on the start and hits #10 which causes him to crash and hit other players.
EMF Crew's description : Leclair's wheels are inside the track, also we can see Jesse front's wheel not touching the ground just before he hit the brakes.
GIF (Alexis POV) : https://i.gyazo.com/a85766d658fcfb732db ... 48a190.gif
VERDICT : Nothing, race incident.
PENALTY : No penalty

Infos: Jeremy COHENOUR, #930 (6963) protested Alexis LECLAIR, #90 (6454)
Time : 6:20
Class : 450Pro
Moto : Main Event 3
Message : Another overly aggressive pass from Leclair which takes me down. He had no reason to go for that line besides to take me out.
EMF Crew's description : Alexis is behind Jeremy since 20s, he attempted a pass on the inside of the 1st corner (right after the finish jump) but failed. Then he did this move 2 corners after it.
GIF (Alexis POV) : https://i.gyazo.com/413bab44ba57b5e1de4 ... 52acc7.gif
VERDICT : Aggressive riding from Alexis, last warning before the suspension.
PENALTY : Warning "agressive riding" [Rulebook - section 2.9]

Infos: Matt AGGETT, #11 (15156) protested Jordan MOXEY, #12 (18285)
Time : 0.35s
Class : 250East
Moto : Main Event 1
Message : punts me and elliot phillip
EMF Crew's description : Jordan is jumping the last single too far. It's the beginning of the race so all racers are packed. He's hitting the rear brake to avoid others but failed.
It resulted of Matt and Elliot crash with a clean block-pass from Jordan.
GIF (Jordan POV) : https://i.gyazo.com/2e9120ecef4753bbf5b ... 8aa791.gif
VERDICT : Jordan's move could be a race incident in a normal setting, but here (1st lap), he could have avoid this move by riding more safely
PENALTY : Warning "unsafe riding" [Rulebook - section 2.9]

Infos: Florian KANE, #167 (9118) protested Elliot PHILLIPS, #517 (18161)
Time : 2.41
Class : 250East
Moto : Main Event 1
Message : elliot phillips block pass florian kane
EMF Crew's description : Elliot is going for a block-pass but failed making both of them crash.
GIF (Elliot POV) : https://i.gyazo.com/0f61c703d2a66aef334 ... d2677c.gif
VERDICT : Aggressive move from Elliot
PENALTY : Warning "agressive riding" [Rulebook - section 2.9]

Infos: Florian KANE, #167 (9118) protested Victor NICOT, #5 (8423)
Time : 5.18
Class : 250East
Moto : Main Event 1
Message : Unsafe re-entry and he took me down!
EMF Crew's description : Victor is restarting after a crash without taking care of others players and without waiting to be lined.
GIF (Florian POV) : https://i.gyazo.com/0ab06a34ecbc5dd243a ... d387ae.gif
GIF (Victor POV) : https://i.gyazo.com/0d2419b453e34748055 ... dac651.gif
VERDICT : Poor restart after crash combined to an unsafe riding making crash an other racer.
PENALTY : Warning "bad restart after crash" [Rulebook - section 2.3] + Warning "unsafe riding" [Rulebook - section 2.9]

Infos: Kevin ROUANNE, #217 (22363) protested Pontus LINDBLAD, #348 (18037)
Time : 3:55
Class : 250Am
Moto : Main Event 1
Message : he brakes in the corner for block me
EMF Crew's description : Kevin is going offtrack at the landing of the triple, leaving a big door opened to Pontus.
GIF (Pontus POV) : https://i.gyazo.com/036996f64e9b6f55aae ... 78ecef.gif
GIF (Kevin POV) : https://i.gyazo.com/186f7ec70170edc2959 ... 32def9.gif
VERDICT : Nothing, race incident.
PENALTY : No penalty
▀▄▀▄▀ Round 10 recap
Infos: Matt Burkeen, #820 (10589) protested Rico DE LAAT, #45 (19896)
Time : lap 13
Class : 250East
Moto : Main Event
Message : https://gyazo.com/c84cabe6b48b7fd891ee01657c0816e8
EMF Crew's description : Rico is going for a block-pass but failed and make both of them crashed. Matt lost the last spot of the podium.
GIF (Rico POV) : https://i.gyazo.com/d3e4685dc0b57bf734e ... 4f494e.gif
GIF (Matt POV) : https://i.gyazo.com/07ee38a1a294eecb797 ... c4efa4.gif
VERDICT : Aggressive riding from Rico
PENALTY : Warning "aggressive riding"


Infos: Sonny SPICER, #- (23831) protested Jake KAZARIAN, #- (25653)
Time : last lap
Class : 250Novice
Moto : Main Event
Message : I was lapping Jake and he crossedjumped me on the wall jump
EMF Crew's description : Jake is out of control here, he crossedjumped twice in a raw in front of Sonny. 2nd time he made him crash.
GIF (Sonny POV) : https://i.gyazo.com/68b6403e20b2c86d58d ... efac15.gif
GIF (Jake POV) : https://i.gyazo.com/b25d618dd849c8a23cf ... eed95d.gif
VERDICT : Unsafe riding + making crash a leader under blue flag
PENALTY : DQ + 2 weeks suspension for unsafe riding and making crash a leader under blue flag


Infos: Kristian BASO, #179 (17277) protested Senna DE SMAELE, #108 (17431)
Time : 19:46
Class : 450Am
Moto : Main Event
Message : i lapped this man and then he takes me out intentionally
EMF Crew's description : Senna just took down Kristian as a lapper. The rider in front of him is 30s ahead..
GIF (Kristian POV) : https://i.gyazo.com/5e98cffa6e00a87d668 ... 1db639.gif
GIF (Senna POV) : https://i.gyazo.com/300356edd8a4922b969 ... 429479.gif
VERDICT : Aggressive riding + making crash a leader on purpose
PENALTY : 2 weeks suspension for aggressive riding and making crash a leader under blue flag
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Re: 2018 [EU region] Supercross series by MXSEMF - Protest thread

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▀▄▀▄▀ Round 11 recap
Infos: Jeremy HINNERS, #624 (4252) protested Tyler LANG, #138 (14539)
Time : 15:25
Class : 250 pro
Moto : Main Event
Message : Tyler is getting up from a double crash and darts right into the main line causing me to get together with him making us both fall. Unsafe track re-entry.
Gif (Tyler): https://gyazo.com/2a03abc5114bbf0dfeeba0c614bd9a0c
Gif (Jeremy): https://gyazo.com/3fbb0501f0a65659f74b4a671e5ca2c9
Verdict: Tyler can clearly see that 2 riders are close to pass him on the minimap and still rides straight out in the track.
Penalty: 1 week suspension for bad track re-entry

Infos: Jordan MOXEY, #12 (18285) protested Rico DE LAAT, #45 (19896)
Time : 14:50
Class : 250 pro
Moto : main
Message : at 14:50 i came up to lap rico and he would not pull over to let me by for the whole lap which was frustrating.
Gif: https://gyazo.com/92452ac2b86e269074289776a82fc019
Verdict: Rico stays within blue blag for over a lap, where as the first ~30 seconds is below 1 second, which is considered to directly interfere with the leaders racing.
Penalty: 1 week suspension for blue flag

Infos: Jordan MOXEY, #7 #12 (18285) protested Rico DE LAAT, #118 #45 (19896)
Time : 14:03
Class : 250 pro
Moto : main
Message : rico riding like idiot kills another rider.
Gif: https://gyazo.com/c9b71bdf8649a164f3eac33922308351
Verdict: The rider who jumps into Rico is a lapper.
Penalty: Nothing - race incident

Infos: Atom HOLM, #36 (9437) protested Rush CHAPMAN , #29 (14794)
Time : 11:54
Class : 450 pro
Moto : Main
Message : He Musquin'd the whoops, I passed him, he punts.
Gif (Rush): https://gyazo.com/11f0b80804aaa7d5a0d86effd4378d04
Gif (Atom): https://gyazo.com/8fb5cfb56a6cda0ae0c48e63534cb92b
Verdict: Rush goes in very aggressively and takes both riders out.
Penalty: 1 week suspension for unsafe riding

Infos: Atom HOLM, #36 (9437) protested Rush CHAPMAN , #29 (14794)
Time : 19:25
Class : 450 pro
Moto : Main
Message : Overly aggressive move.
Gif (Rush): https://gyazo.com/669fc737b9b0fbfa14675dab21340353
Gif (Atom): https://gyazo.com/591a6263ad8367adf56f2ae3cd10570e
Verdict: This is Mx Simulator, not Punt and Takeout simulator, ride accordingly.
Penalty: Warning for unsafe riding

Infos: Colt HANS, #271 (21779) protested Evan SINGLETARY, #170 (22667)
Time : 6:32
Class : novic
Moto : Main Event
Message : Evan made a mistake on the supercross triple, i made the pass and he intentionally took me out in the corner.
Gif: https://gyazo.com/b06ba4e5e48f28e18d29379c9e535277 (additional 1 - 2 - 3)
Verdict: Evan straight up t-bones Colt. Along with some unsafe track re-entries and not moving for blue flag, causing leader to crash.
Penalty: 5 weeks suspension for unsafe riding and blue flag

Infos: Theo PRUVOST, #227 (23451) protested Brendan RODGER, #215 (23004)
Time : 20.31
Class : 450 am
Moto : main event
Message : rentre comme un attarder et me faitn tomber, j'espere quil sera sanctionner https://gyazo.com/8164ac317aaabf5c1cd92b94206c1c20
Gif (Theo): https://gyazo.com/ee68cbfa0b2ed2a81612bb31a756adbd
Gif (Brendan): https://gyazo.com/94fa04ce9876d074263f681971c6ea17
Verdict: Description, please have it in English. Brendan re-enters the track terribly.
Penalty: 1 week suspension for bad track re-entry

Infos: Pontus LINDBLAD, #169 #348 (18037) protested Jules KERNAONET, #711 #710 (22015)
Time : 10:21 to 12:30
Class : 250 am
Moto : Main event
Message : i lapped this man for a long while and at 11:33 he braked hard so i hit his wheel and after that he refused to move for another long time
Gif: Brake - Not letting by
Verdict: The braking part is simply Pontus carrying more speed and running into the back of Jules. Jules should have let Pontus by, Jules did also hold up a few other leaders.
Penalty: DQ - For blue flag

Infos: Alexander KERR, #913 (24454) protested Christian REED, #354 (9202)
Time : 8:06 to 8:09
Class : 250 E
Moto : Heat 2
Message : It was last turn and we are both transfer positions (5th & 6th) but Christian decides to do a non-realistic move on me. Very unnecessary. Alex's View: https://gyazo.com/65efc3585f0c355d271e544e69e98cb8 Christian's View: https://gyazo.com/294d1a65756f1af28
Gif: https://gyazo.com/65efc3585f0c355d271e544e69e98cb8
Verdict: Christian should be more careful in the future, but this didn't affect the outcome as Alexander move onto the main.
Penalty: Warning - unsafe riding
▀▄▀▄▀ Round 12 recap
Infos: Dale MULLINS, #873 (15496) protested Fred HEATHER, #13 (4686)
Time : 1:55
Class : 250E pro
Moto : 250E Heat
Message : gets up from a crash, rides to middle of that track.
Gif (Fred): https://gyazo.com/48e93cb237e2018117a86b5ec1b8f8cf
Gif (Dale): https://gyazo.com/28128852274dc6b38847000406cdc5be
Verdict: Fred pulls right out in the middle of the track.
Penalty: 1 round suspension for bad track re-entry

Infos: Victor NICOT, #5 (8423) protested Rico DE LAAT, #45 (19896)
Time : 3:01
Class : 250 pro
Moto : heat east
Message : he bloked pass me, we botch went down! He hurt my brain, therefore i was uncontrollable in lcq, i want to apologize to everybode, that was a good career! jk idc
Gif (Victor): https://gyazo.com/d77400b0f4eacfb833de677c70d5b6d9
Gif (Rico): https://gyazo.com/0196c31c207c7f8caed08dec7a8a6664
Verdict: Rico goes far inside, however not seemingly intentionally to take Victor down. If Rico would have gotten a bit further out or Victor further in, it wouldn't have been an incident, as well as Victor could have anticipated Rico on the inside.
Penalty: Warning for unsafe riding

Infos: Walter GEBHARDT, #85 (12235) protested Clement LANA, #32 (12257)
Time : 5min 50sec
Class : 250 pro
Moto : Main
Message :i slide out into him on accident and then next corner he hold it 5th wide open and punts me
Gif (Walter): https://gyazo.com/95415f10af726204378773c456a1c322
Gif (Clement): https://gyazo.com/120a43b160e9fa66d1413ac613b7a644
Verdict: Lana t-bones Walter for a very slight (racing incident) from Walter's part.
Penalty: Suspended from remaining SX rounds

Infos: Dylan GATLIN, #199 (19835) protested Isaiah DICKERSON #260 (23262)
Time : 12:07
Class : 250
Moto : main event
Message : Isaiah cut down into the corner and sent me over the berm
Gif: https://gyazo.com/37817131d5099b5e860f88cef609af8c
Verdict: Isaiah matches Dylans pace but has a different rhythm and due to the game and perhaps lag, the get bubble'd together and Dylan is unfortunately launched a bit.
Penalty: Nothing - Racing incident

Infos: Jordi PRATS, #237 (24205) protested Alexander KERR, #913 (24454)
Time : 6:03
Class : 250 amateur
Moto : Main Event
Message : Alex Kerr block passed me and makes me crash when he was a lap down.
Gif: https://gyazo.com/b9789906f4bbc6b4a592e51fae9fc774
Verdict: They come together in the rhythm section and then Kerr goes for the take-out as a lapper.
Penalty: 2 rounds suspension for intentionally taking out a leader

Infos: Joel EVANS, #24 (29378) protested Oscar ANDERSSON, #529 (7605)
Time : 0:01
Class : Free
Moto : LCQ
Message : Cut me off straight out of the gate!
Gif: https://gyazo.com/5cf1dd4953e54411bda5301933d3d68a
Verdict: Oscar very subtle but aggressively defends his line on the start. It'll pass for this time, but next time that'll lead to a disqualification as Oscar had the jump on the other riders and should have gotten further ahead before blocking the line.
Penalty: Warning - unsafe riding
▀▄▀▄▀ Round 13 recap
Infos: Hunter ROOT, #2 (8752) protested Walter GEBHARDT, #85 (12235)
Time : 21:38
Class : 450 pro
Moto : Main
Message : Would have never made the corner. Position back should be the penalty.
Gif: https://gyazo.com/8fd4778a7d85b93b279185a0657776b6
Verdict: Walter punts Hunter for the win in the 2nd to last turn. However Hunter goes from 3rd to 2nd on cuts.
Penalty: Docked 1 position for unsafe riding
▀▄▀▄▀ Round 14 recap
Infos: Rico DE LAAT, #45 (19896) protested , # (21844)
Time : 6:51
Class : 250 pro
Moto : main 1
Message : Theo is a lapper and when i was on his side he didnt slow down and tried to battle with me and that scared so i crashed
Gif: https://gyazo.com/1bd76e64f7a5b30457624a3ed2db12c5
Verdict: Theo does not move, yet stays mostly on his side and does not directly interfere with Rico in any major way. Rico jumps into the pole on his own.
Penalty: Nothing - race incident

Infos: Rico DE LAAT, #45 (19896) protested Jordan MOXEY, #12 (18285)
Time : 6:33
Class : 250 pro
Moto : main 2
Message : Moxey going for the take out by isac but get karma
Gif: https://gyazo.com/1c7decb5a640dbfe83e71fe950a5afab
Verdict: Jordan does go easily into Isac's side.
Penalty: Warning - Unsafe riding

Infos: Devin DAVIS, #82 (4275) protested Walter GEBHARDT, #85 (12235)
Time : 11:45
Class : 250 pro
Moto : Main #2
Message : It was the last lap and had pressure from behind so I tried to get around the LAPPED rider quickly and he ignored the blue flag costing me two positions. Walter raced with me for over a lap before this incident occurred.
Gif (Walter): https://gyazo.com/fd42e215f8e4787f366901abcce23bbf
Gif (Devin): https://gyazo.com/72ec192225630482cce4af2956e0141d
Verdict: Walter goes into Devin despite that he should have known he was on that side of him since he passed him in the turn previously. This move also causes Devin to fall off the podium.
Penalty: DQ + 1 week suspension

Infos: Rico DE LAAT, #45 (19896) protested Florian KANE, #167 (9118)
Time : 11:07
Class : 250 pro
Moto : Main 3
Message : Florian crashed and while the leaders are coming he dont care and still trying to go backwards
Gif: https://gyazo.com/fda1b58d6bbb60f0de9c46a0f6655021
Verdict:=http://mxsemf.com/rules.php#h.i9tigf1r ... n himself.
Penalty: Nothin - race incident

Infos: Devin DAVIS, #82 (4275) protested Jonathan HUGHES, #33 (9262)
Time : N/A
Class : 450
Moto : Main #3
Message : I don't have the chat logs available, but in addition to the incident where he was trying to ruin Hunter Root's race he also typed in chat "devin kys you fat hill billy". Mute?
Verdict: See protest below

Infos: Hunter ROOT, #2 (8752) protested Jonathan HUGHES, #33 (9262)
Time : Look below
Class : 450
Moto : 2-3
Message : Main 2: 8:45. Main 3: 8:06, 10:04, 13:49
Image: Img 1
Gif: Gif 1 - Gif 2 - Gif 3 - Gif 4 - Gif 5 - Gif 6 - Gif 7 - Gif 8 - Gif 9 - Gif 10 - Gif 11
Verdict: Jonathan re-enters the track improperly, cuts over aggressively in the start causing a major pile-up and waits for riders/slow down so they hit him. This combined with Jonathan have acted disrespectful on-track earlier this year.
Penalty: Suspended for the rest of 2018, Jonathan can ask to be unbanned for 2019

Infos: Mike VAN AALST, #733 #- (25571) protested Connorbaduid BRUCE, #422 #- (11111)
Time : all
Class : 250
Moto : 1 and 2
Message : Please make the lappers invisible... We can't ride like this. Lappers take evryone out, they lay down in every corner and jump..
Verdict: Protest people that are in the race
▀▄▀▄▀ Round 15 recap
Infos: Rico DE LAAT, #45 (19896) protested Jordan MOXEY, #12 (18285)
Time : 2:51
Class : 250 pro
Moto : Main
Message : Moxey going for the take out on gaetan
Gif: https://gyazo.com/173c84909af5901014fc373d1ee3558c
Verdict: Moxey passes Gaetan aggressively but rides away from it.
Penalty: Nothing - He rode away clean from it

Infos: Rico DE LAAT, #45 (19896) protested Jordan MOXEY, #12 (18285)
Time : 9:00 till 9:51
Class : 250 pro
Moto : main
Message : Moxey is not moving for multiple leaders, till he crashed
Gif: https://gyazo.com/654f8f782cbdcf3bd19d60ded1334d94
Verdict: Moxey starts out being 0.6s in front of Isac, but extends his gap up until a bit over 1s and maintains it, until he crashes. Judging by the demo, he did not interfere with Isac's racing (assuming Isac could have protested him himself if he disagrees) as Isac could hit his lines.
Penalty: Nothing

Infos: Rico DE LAAT, #45 (19896) protested Jordan MOXEY, #12 (18285)
Time : 10:51 till 11:46
Class : 250 pro
Moto : main
Message : Moxey is again not moving for the blue flag, and when he is out the track he just jumped back in and rides his own race again.
Gif: https://gyazo.com/1a8ed9051cc65fe205115723d901be50
Verdict: Neither here does Moxey ride to close to Alanas behind him. He actually shows that he rides with caution as he does not do the last triple in the rhythm section.
Penalty: Nothing

Infos: Rico DE LAAT, #45 (19896) protested Jordan MOXEY, #12 (18285)
Time : 13:26
Class : 250 pro
Moto : main
Message : Moxey is again not caring about leaders and going for a battle with Jay
Gif: https://gyazo.com/29844eacba1a94f55a57127770b2c14e
Verdict: The move in the GIF gives Moxey a warning, but for the rest, he's pulling away quite significantly from Jay.
Penalty: Warning - Unsafe riding

Infos: Matt AGGETT, #11 (15156) protested Gaetan PICH, #117 (17009)
Time : 16:25
Class : 250 pro
Moto : main
Message : cuts into the main line with blue flag causing me to not make the triple and cost me the win
Gif: Part 1 - Part 2 - Part 3
Verdict: Given that Gaetan is around 40s behind his closest competitor in front, he has no reason to be trying to make up time. He's sketchy the 2 sections before the turn, causing him to cross over Matt a few times, until he completely ruin Matt's momentum.
Penalty: 2 round ban - blue flag, unsafe riding

Infos: Alexis LECLAIR, #90 (6454) protested Corentin JULIAN, #42 (2233)
Time : 16.10
Class : 450 pro
Moto : main event
Message : No word to explain that. Can you just put this guy out of pro ....
Gif (Alexis): https://gyazo.com/87c95e404afd148a7fd80b6e77160c84
Gif (Corentin): https://gyazo.com/f814e2be92e69df880819d75b237531b
Verdict: Corentin re-enters out onto the track without looking and takes Alexis down.
Penalty: 1 round ban - bad track re-entry
▀▄▀▄▀ Round 16 recap
Infos: Walter GEBHARDT, #85 (12235) protested Janik SCHRöTER, #500 (7306)
Time : 19min 10sec
Class : 450Pro
Moto : Main event
Message : jumps over a rut and kills me after messing up the corner
EMF Crew's description : We can see Janik trying to let pass leaders before the incident. He waited on top of the berm to let pass #259 and restarted when Walter was coming in the rut..
GIF (Walter POV) : https://i.gyazo.com/adbd00841c13224caaa ... d2a5da.gif
GIF (Janik POV) : https://i.gyazo.com/bbf562e4b420db7c740 ... e73abe.gif
VERDICT : Race incident
PENALTY : No penalty
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M@xTizZz wrote:
RFX_corentin_12 wrote:What the fuck are these protest? It's not dirt bike racing anymore... I didnt see anything wrong with the moves of Guido/Tison and Tison/Haugness, you both block pass clean, that's racing.. Let's go play Golf then if we cant touch someone wihtout getting a warning or getting suspended..
my move is not clean at all..
You didnt crash or anything with him, you stay on your wheels, to me its clean.
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RFX_corentin_12 wrote:
M@xTizZz wrote:
RFX_corentin_12 wrote:What the fuck are these protest? It's not dirt bike racing anymore... I didnt see anything wrong with the moves of Guido/Tison and Tison/Haugness, you both block pass clean, that's racing.. Let's go play Golf then if we cant touch someone wihtout getting a warning or getting suspended..
my move is not clean at all..
You didnt crash or anything with him, you stay on your wheels, to me its clean.
ye but he sent him in the bales and he went off track, it's not fair and pretty dumb. I was late and i still wanted to make the pass, it was a mistake.
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RFX_corentin_12 wrote:
M@xTizZz wrote:
RFX_corentin_12 wrote:What the fuck are these protest? It's not dirt bike racing anymore... I didnt see anything wrong with the moves of Guido/Tison and Tison/Haugness, you both block pass clean, that's racing.. Let's go play Golf then if we cant touch someone wihtout getting a warning or getting suspended..
my move is not clean at all..
You didnt crash or anything with him, you stay on your wheels, to me its clean.
I agree Corentin, mostly. What I didn't like about Tizz's pass is that he came in full speed, slid out a little and very hard pushed him. Guido's move on Tizz was fine with me, but when you do that and Tbone someone OR you both go down, you are to blame/receive some penalty.
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To Bitchler - is this for real?

Gif Part 1 & 2: If that dude in front of you didn't crash, then you would have been fine. I was going to turn super sharp and not hit you, but you cut down and there goes that (go watch it onboard). And also the small whoops before, I was doing them EVERY LAP like that, I can't keep track on who has lapped me and who hasn't, if you are going to lap me and then go through whoops like a snail then thats your problem...

This: I was going through the whoops EVERY LAP exactly like that, too bad I got a swap right at that time. And also again, if you lap me and I'm able to get on you like that so easy, then it's really not my fucking problem as I'm also trying to progress in the race. You can also see that I did everything I could not you just send it into the berm and possibly hit them (go watch the onboard).

Part 1 & 2: So what exactly are you crying about here?

Might aswell take a look at whats happening with #30's internet during first lap. It's 2018 and people can still get away with connection like that. And when people are trying to progress in a race they'll get clipped.

You ladies are way too soft for this thing.
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And also, Guido got banned and Tizz not? Don't have to be an expert to see that shit's rigged.
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krossboy wrote:I can't keep track on who has lapped me and who hasn't.

if you lap me and I'm able to get on you like that so easy, then it's really not my fucking problem as I'm also trying to progress in the race.
These things are exactly what you're supposed to do as a lapper. If you're getting lapped, it doesn't matter if you're Hunter Root going 1000 mph, you stay away from the people lapping you, even if that means slowing down temporarily. They lapped you for a reason.
AMA rulebook wrote: 4.17 Flags and Lights

It is the rider’s responsibility to be aware of their surroundings at all times while on track. Safety is a main priority and the riders must obey all official signals and directions given to them. Any rider failing to do so may be penalized.

a. Solid Blue Flag:
1. Indicates you are about to be overtaken by faster riders.
2. When conditions allow, move out of the fast line.
3. Hold your line (don’t ride erratically) and do not impede the faster riders progress.
4. Riders disregarding the blue flag may be black-flagged at the discretion of Race Director.
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Rayvenator wrote:
krossboy wrote:I can't keep track on who has lapped me and who hasn't.

if you lap me and I'm able to get on you like that so easy, then it's really not my fucking problem as I'm also trying to progress in the race.
These things are exactly what you're supposed to do as a lapper. If you're getting lapped, it doesn't matter if you're Hunter Root going 1000 mph, you stay away from the people lapping you, even if that means slowing down temporarily. They lapped you for a reason.
AMA rulebook wrote: 4.17 Flags and Lights

It is the rider’s responsibility to be aware of their surroundings at all times while on track. Safety is a main priority and the riders must obey all official signals and directions given to them. Any rider failing to do so may be penalized.

a. Solid Blue Flag:
1. Indicates you are about to be overtaken by faster riders.
2. When conditions allow, move out of the fast line.
3. Hold your line (don’t ride erratically) and do not impede the faster riders progress.
4. Riders disregarding the blue flag may be black-flagged at the discretion of Race Director.
Next time you are gonna ban me because I'm rolling a rhythm section, dragging my footpegs in the bales and some dude quads on top of me. I can already hear you saying: "What is this lapper doing... he should let the leaders by."

I feel like that Bitchler incident doesn't justify a ban, let alone 2 round one. Too fucking bad that dude gooned infront of he(r).
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krossboy wrote: Next time you are gonna ban me because I'm rolling a rhythm section, dragging my footpegs in the bales and some dude quads on top of me. I can already hear you saying: "What is this lapper doing... he should let the leaders by."

I feel like that Bitchler incident doesn't justify a ban, let alone 2 round one. Too fucking bad that dude gooned infront of he(r).
I'm not banning anyone :D

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Rayvenator wrote:
krossboy wrote: Next time you are gonna ban me because I'm rolling a rhythm section, dragging my footpegs in the bales and some dude quads on top of me. I can already hear you saying: "What is this lapper doing... he should let the leaders by."

I feel like that Bitchler incident doesn't justify a ban, let alone 2 round one. Too fucking bad that dude gooned infront of he(r).
I'm not banning anyone :D

I'm just a friend of order.
That was to whoever swings the banhammer, and ohhh boy does he like to swing it....
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krossboy wrote: That was to whoever swings the banhammer, and ohhh boy does he like to swing it....
And here I thought they were being too nice :mrgreen:
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Rayvenator wrote:
krossboy wrote: That was to whoever swings the banhammer, and ohhh boy does he like to swing it....
And here I thought they were being too nice :mrgreen:
Yeah, about Tizz's situation, if you compare it to Guidos.
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krossboy wrote:
Rayvenator wrote:
krossboy wrote: That was to whoever swings the banhammer, and ohhh boy does he like to swing it....
And here I thought they were being too nice :mrgreen:
Yeah, about Tizz's situation, if you compare it to Guidos.
Guido did it twice perpendicular to the guys, i did it once parallel, and i'm not reviewing EU protests at all, Storken is alone to decide so go bitch on something else
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M@xTizZz wrote:
krossboy wrote:
Rayvenator wrote:
And here I thought they were being too nice :mrgreen:
Yeah, about Tizz's situation, if you compare it to Guidos.
Guido did it twice perpendicular to the guys, i did it once parallel, and i'm not reviewing EU protests at all, Storken is alone to decide so go bitch on something else
Why the fuck does it matter how many times and which angle you do it for a MAIN EVENT position? The outcome is always the same.

And don't even tell me that he didn't look that through pink glasses, that's the way it goes, everyone knows.
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