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Re: Released Track Objects
Posted: Wed Oct 05, 2011 10:51 am
by haydugjr
jlv wrote:I hate to be a curmudgeon here, but wouldn't the doubled output on the kid's solar array be better explained by the 20 panels on his tree vs the 10 on the roof? Or are there 10 panels that are hidden from view on the shady side of the roof? Either way it's a loaded comparison.
I think I see some sticking out on the shady side of the roof, but even so the house is blocking that direction so it wouldn't matter anyways.
Re: Released Track Objects
Posted: Wed Oct 05, 2011 6:59 pm
by ddmx
jlv wrote:I hate to be a curmudgeon here, but wouldn't the doubled output on the kid's solar array be better explained by the 20 panels on his tree vs the 10 on the roof? Or are there 10 panels that are hidden from view on the shady side of the roof? Either way it's a loaded comparison.
There are 10 on the other side of the house model. His argument is that there are 20 panels that are getting some light at all times rather than 10 panels getting light half the day and 10 the other half.
Re: Released Track Objects
Posted: Wed Oct 05, 2011 7:36 pm
by Garasaki
I bet you didn't know that some cabinets use the fibonacci sequence to determine the height of individual drawers?
True story.
Re: Released Track Objects
Posted: Wed Oct 05, 2011 10:10 pm
by jlv
ddmx wrote:There are 10 on the other side of the house model. His argument is that there are 20 panels that are getting some light at all times rather than 10 panels getting light half the day and 10 the other half.
You could make a flat plane aimed directly at the sun at noon with 20 panels on it and it would do better than his tree. The only way his tree wins is if the person laying out the conventional array is mentally disabled and aims half of the panels away from the sun.
Re: Released Track Objects
Posted: Wed Oct 05, 2011 10:33 pm
by ShackAttack12
jlv wrote:ddmx wrote:There are 10 on the other side of the house model. His argument is that there are 20 panels that are getting some light at all times rather than 10 panels getting light half the day and 10 the other half.
You could make a flat plane aimed directly at the sun at noon with 20 panels on it and it would do better than his tree. The only way his tree wins is if the person laying out the conventional array is mentally disabled and aims half of the panels away from the sun.
Exactly...
The article did say that when the sun is low in the sky, the kids setup produces 50% more energy than lay flat installations.
Really, the absolutely best setup would be to have a huge pole on top of your house that's above all the trees around you. Have a rotating with solar panels mounted to it at the top. Then have software and electric motors automatically adjust the angle of the panels based on where the sun is.
Re: Released Track Objects
Posted: Wed Oct 05, 2011 10:34 pm
by wheels1758
ShackAttack12 wrote:jlv wrote:ddmx wrote:There are 10 on the other side of the house model. His argument is that there are 20 panels that are getting some light at all times rather than 10 panels getting light half the day and 10 the other half.
You could make a flat plane aimed directly at the sun at noon with 20 panels on it and it would do better than his tree. The only way his tree wins is if the person laying out the conventional array is mentally disabled and aims half of the panels away from the sun.
Exactly...
The article did say that when the sun is low in the sky, the kids setup produces 50% more energy than lay flat installations.
Really, the absolutely best setup would be to have a huge pole on top of your house that's above all the trees around you. Have a rotating with solar panels mounted to it at the top. Then have software and electric motors automatically adjust the angle of the panels based on where the sun is.
And power your motors with a generator
Re: Released Track Objects
Posted: Wed Oct 05, 2011 11:07 pm
by DJ99X
I could see his idea being applicable if the extra surface area was required to absorb CO2 like a tree. But of course, thats not the case.
Re: Released Track Objects
Posted: Wed Oct 05, 2011 11:45 pm
by ddmx
Annnyyyywaaaayyyysssss, he noticed that the branches on trees follow the fibonacci sequence...
Re: Released Track Objects
Posted: Thu Oct 06, 2011 2:02 pm
by Garasaki
Just like drawers on a cabinet!
http://mathscinotes.wordpress.com/2010/ ... r-heights/
And as for solar panels, there are systems out there that rotate the solar panel to follow the sun around the sky. They are quite common - anyone who is genuinely interested in generating electricity from a solar panel, doe sit that way (the rest of the people just like to say they have solar panels on their building and it gives them a warm fuzzy).
Re: Released Track Objects
Posted: Thu Oct 06, 2011 2:02 pm
by Garasaki
OMG big picture
Re: Released Track Objects
Posted: Thu Oct 06, 2011 2:36 pm
by wheels1758
Garasaki wrote:OMG big picture
Holy big bottom drawer batman! Looks like something that you'd see for a tool chest. Except the bottom drawer would be a cabinet instead of a drawer.
Re: Released Track Objects
Posted: Mon Oct 10, 2011 3:48 am
by JB323
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Re: Released Track Objects
Posted: Mon Oct 10, 2011 1:59 pm
by DJ99X
Y U NO LEARN HOW TO DO THINGS AFTER ALL THIS TIME
Re: Released Track Objects
Posted: Mon Oct 10, 2011 3:39 pm
by wheels1758
DJ99X wrote:Y U NO LEARN HOW TO DO THINGS AFTER ALL THIS TIME
Y U NO GET HE 2 BIZY TALKN TO DEANO TOO L3RN!
Re: Released Track Objects
Posted: Tue Oct 11, 2011 12:28 am
by Jones221