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Re: 2015 Red Bull Straight Rhythm Replica

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mxsrider96 wrote:
AWood wrote:Good luck? Just because you request they dont do it doesnt mean they cant.
There's a thing called respect, which Chris has shown more than once that he absolutely deserves. Even if I disagreed with pay to race (which I am totally neutral on, I don't support it, but I won't gripe at Checkerz or Byron for making some change at what really grows this game), I would not host a race on this track out of respect for the man who made it.
Grows this game? Have you seen the shit signups for both events? CHECKER$ made a lot of money but with a very small amount. Byron Promised a pro payback and thats worth paying for, its not like you have anything to lose, only to gain. Thats the real change we want. And we dont want a permanent change just adds a little excitement and incentive to do well at your favorite events. People who run them just need to find the balance between a fee with the most signups and what people are willing to pay. You can pay $10 and get 40 signups with$400 pool, whereas you may have and event with a $3 entry fee but 150 riders that brings $450. You could also have it to where $2 of the 3 goes to the pool and $1 goes to cover the paypal fee and the host/creators. The same amount will still be up for grabs but with more competition and less overhead required to enter. Win Win. I lost a lot of respect after the way this event was handled and the shape of the track IMO being one of his worst ever made whereas he is normally what i would say the 2nd best track creator in this game. You got your money you cant limit people to not run organized events til the 1st of the year. How about til the day after your event is ran.
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Re: 2015 Red Bull Straight Rhythm Replica

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CHECKER$ made a lot of money but with a very small amount being payed back.*
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Re: 2015 Red Bull Straight Rhythm Replica

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AWood wrote:Grows this game? Have you seen the shit signups for both events? CHECKER$ made a lot of money but with a very small amount. Byron Promised a pro payback and thats worth paying for, its not like you have anything to lose, only to gain. Thats the real change we want. And we dont want a permanent change just adds a little excitement and incentive to do well at your favorite events. People who run them just need to find the balance between a fee with the most signups and what people are willing to pay. You can pay $10 and get 40 signups with$400 pool, whereas you may have and event with a $3 entry fee but 150 riders that brings $450. You could also have it to where $2 of the 3 goes to the pool and $1 goes to cover the paypal fee and the host/creators. The same amount will still be up for grabs but with more competition and less overhead required to enter. Win Win. I lost a lot of respect after the way this event was handled and the shape of the track IMO being one of his worst ever made whereas he is normally what i would say the 2nd best track creator in this game. You got your money you cant limit people to not run organized events til the 1st of the year. How about til the day after your event is ran.
I don't see the point you're trying to make with the shit sign ups and racing not being the biggest reason for people to buy MXS. Yes, there aren't many people signed up for either event, but I guarantee there would be more people signed up if it were a free event like everything else. And that's the point I was trying to make there. The racing is what keeps people coming. The biggest reason I wanted in was because of the replica races, and I know that a lot of pros only really have fun when they're racing. What gets me about this post is, "I lost a lot of respect.." until the end. I don't see how this event was handled in a bad way. I do not believe that, for those who have the means of affording it, $5 is too much to ask for an event, and I think another $5 for a practice pass is absolutely justified. The banning of people who got the track early for the extra money and handed it out to people for free, I think, is just about the only way he could've gone with that, without taking the hassle of setting up a new link every time someone needs it and then deleting the file from that link. Please, do explain how this event was handled poorly, and why that made you lose respect, because, I personally am very curious, and I doubt I'm the only one. Also, Chris made the track. IMO, if you host an event on a track that you did not make, without asking permission or knowing that the creator would be okay with it, that is a huge sign of disrespect. The LEAST someone can do is not host an event on this track for the requested time period. Besides, 2 months is not that long to wait.
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AWood wrote:Grows this game? Have you seen the shit signups for both events? CHECKER$ made a lot of money but with a very small amount. Byron Promised a pro payback and thats worth paying for, its not like you have anything to lose, only to gain. Thats the real change we want. And we dont want a permanent change just adds a little excitement and incentive to do well at your favorite events. People who run them just need to find the balance between a fee with the most signups and what people are willing to pay. You can pay $10 and get 40 signups with$400 pool, whereas you may have and event with a $3 entry fee but 150 riders that brings $450. You could also have it to where $2 of the 3 goes to the pool and $1 goes to cover the paypal fee and the host/creators. The same amount will still be up for grabs but with more competition and less overhead required to enter. Win Win. I lost a lot of respect after the way this event was handled and the shape of the track IMO being one of his worst ever made whereas he is normally what i would say the 2nd best track creator in this game. You got your money you cant limit people to not run organized events til the 1st of the year. How about til the day after your event is ran.
When a new bike comes out or a new graphics card for your computer, do you feel like it is your place to tell them where they set the price? If you think it is too much, you "speak" by not purchasing it. If it is a banger of a deal, you buy it and that is how you tell the company. Do you also tell them where to spend the money?

The last time I checked, you spoke by not signing up for the event. You've continued parading around all the threads trying to make a mockery of it which just makes you look terrible.

You continue to preach about payout, payout, payout. Guess what, you're right, my payout isn't huge. While that is the case and Byron's is much larger... look at the entry list... While a payout may be important to YOU, it clearly isn't important to a majority.

As far as entries for the event, the final count is about 75 total entries. I don't get how you consider that a poor turnout. Maybe it looks smaller because it is split across 3 classes, but I am completely fine with that turnout. Big enough to fill the brackets and provide good racing is all that is needed. The extra "fluff" may bring more guys, but it most likely would bring the guys who are a pain to deal with at the event and do stupid crap to hurt the racing.

I won't mention yet again, why exactly do the racers deserve to get a larger cut than the hosts? All they did was show up and race, and their payment is an event and a track. They are getting a product and a service. Not to mention I've helped donate over 100 of those products and services for absolutely nothing while other creators in the game were cashing in. For awhile doing everything free was okay, until I decided it wasn't okay with me that others were making thousands off of selling content when I wasn't making anything. In order to make that sit right, I wanted to do some paid events, while most will remain free. I am not hiding the fact that I'm doing this to raise money. What I do with the money, well that is none of your business, but my intentions would probably surprise you.
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Thank you soooooo much I've been waiting for this day!!!!!!!
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If my money is not being used for hookers and coke, I want a full refund plus interest.
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BradyS21 wrote:If my money is not being used for hookers and coke, I want a full refund plus interest.
There is a reason I put up the "Team Sale" a few days before I went to Vegas. Consider yours spent well haha.
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Awesome track. It's technical enough, and has enough options to be fun on any bike, and at any skill level. I can be fairly consistent on it, but there's definitely spots that demand more precision than distance, and the jump templates are forgiving enough to slow you down without feet-off cartwheeling about 80% of the time if you clip something.

Great track, 10/10 would buy again
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Ohagan75 wrote:
DBRider251 wrote:I second. Had no problem donating $10 to get early access because of the previous high quality tracks he's released, but this was one was one of your lower quality ones. Can't find a flow at all.
Are you seriously trying to blame your lack of flow on Chris? Ever put it down to your skills in the game? The track flows fine and once you get the lines down it's actually really fun.
Well, you have your own opinion, but when I get the lines down, and still think it has no flow, then it's my own opinion. It's broken up by weird faces and jumps that don't have rhythm. I just think the track could've been a little higher quality for a paid event, considering the masterpieces he's had before.
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I might donate just because of the argument you put up chex, and because i totally agree with it. If MVA Supercross wasnt a pile of shit i would have bought that game and every damn DLC that got released for it. I dont see what the issue with dropping a couple bucks on content i really want is, and if the price is too steep, the oh well i dont buy it. Thats why i dont have a lambo :cry:
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checkerz wrote:What I do with the money, well that is none of your business, but my intentions would probably surprise you.
Making me look terrible. Honestly if i knew the money went to hookers and coke i would hook you up with $20 and a local dealer. hahaha

whatever just wish we had better setup for paid races. also butthurt you said hi to dmills but didnt take 30 seconds out of your day to actually introduce yourself and talk to us for a second at monster cup instead of just walking past
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AWood wrote:whatever just wish we had better setup for paid races.
What would you have changed if you were to run a paid event? I thought it all seemed to work out well. It was nice that they were able to pinpoint who was racing the track and compare it to who had paid for it.

And I'm not saying that this was the only way it could be done, or it was the best way, but I definitely didn't think it was handled poorly.
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Might as well not even ask Alex. That's AWood's thing lately. He makes blind accusations or claims with no proof or reasoning to back it up. I asked him how it was handled poorly ~2 days ago and have gotten nothing
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