2015 AMA Outdoor Nationals Discussion

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Can't wait for the two stroke race at GH, hope they at least have the full race online somehow.
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AWood wrote:Malcolm is fine. Is not racing outdoors unless he gets a 450 ride. As of right now. No plans. Trust me
I just heard all the stuff about him not racing on the PulpMX show so idk
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450
1)Dungey i hate to say it
2.)Kenny
3.)Tomac
I am sure some rookies like seely, baggett anderson and other will be bar banging in the front of the pack not letting the top three get away.
250
1.)J-Mart I mean horribe sx last year and then makes everyone look bad in mx and this year horribe sx i look for him to do the same this year in mx just no fear in the outdoor relm
2.)marvin just really hot rite now
3.) Jessy Nelson just looked really fast and won a couple motos,Thunder Vally and My hometown Track Indiana MX
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450
1 Tomac
2 Dungey
3 Roczen

I really hope Bagget does well, suzuki suits him well and he always had something more at outdoors (when he was healthy), hopefully Weston Peick will get some podiums and I'm curious what guys like Pourcel, Grant, Seely, Anderson etc will do.

250
1 Bogle (fanboy :lol: )
2 Musquin
3 Martin

For 250 I'm really wondering what Cianciarulo has in the pocket, and I really hope Herlings gets his worldtitle really soon, so he can race an outdoor national :D
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Still have no idea what injury Justin Hill suffered that he could come back to make the main, but DNS. No word on Josh either. He might be through. Hope Justin gets some better luck along with more confidence. I always seem to neglect Nattys since it's in the summer.
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Heres my picks for nattys.
1- Dungey
2- Tomac
3- Roczen (if he stays healthy)
Reasoning- Dungey and that new bike.... wow, very impressive SX season and thats not even his strongsuit! Plus he is training with the best (Aldon). Tomac will most likely have decent starts and will battle Dungey for wins throughout the season. The guy is crazy at nationals and that 30mins gives him plenty of time to chase down anyone for a win. Roczen had a good opening round and rounds after that but Oakland was the end of his streak, I still feel like he will be in contention for wins but I just havent seen his overall speed and conditioning since he left Aldon.
250
1- Musquin
2- Martin
3- Webb
Reasoning- Marvin is on absolute fire on that new bike, plus he is with Dungey and Aldon, the best in the biz as far as training goes, I see him winning but with Martin close behind. Last year the guy was a complete animal and attacked the track week after week. Should brew up some good battles. As far as Cooper goes he will also be in contention for wins but they will come with a top ten start. I really dont see him chasing down Musquin or J-Mart if they get a good start and avoid the pack.
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450:

1. The Dunge - Can't beat the consistency + he's an even better outdoor rider
2. KRoc - Has the speed and fitness, I think he just has a mental game he needs to figure out.
3. Tomac - At times can be the faster dude on the track by a long shot, but you can't fight consistency and good start with only raw speed.

250:

1. Martin - Can't argue with his performance last year, and just him knowing he is a beast outdoors puts him a step above.
2. AC - Hard to say how this kid will do once he gets beat, speed and fitness will be no issue, but if he can make it the whole season for once I think he will be a little inconsistent his first full year and that will be his championship down fall.
3. Marvin - The dude is on fire on that KTM and is really technical rider and no doubt has the speed/fitness. Just outdoors in the past (lack of experience and injury's though) show a little inconsistency. Now that he is healthy maybe he can figure it out.

I'm excited for the 250 class, some really heavy hitters this year and your top 5 guys can show up and win any given weekend.
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m121c wrote: 2. AC - Hard to say how this kid will do once he gets beat, speed and fitness will be no issue, but if he can make it the whole season for once I think he will be a little inconsistent his first full year and that will be his championship down fall.
He hasen't raced in over 400 days but he is training with Aldon, he is on one of the best teams and riding with Dungey, Anderson and Musquin so I guess he got a pretty good shot at doing good. But beating the guys with several years of experience in the long run definetly gets my doubts running. No question he is fast, and he may suprise us like Martin did last year.

(Personally I hope he goes out and smokes everyone)
No doubts this fella will get many championships under his belt trough his carreer tho if things go accordingly to plan.

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Totally forgot about AC, he'll be a top contender for sure!
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Dungey is riding like he has been training with Alden, that right there puts him in the front seat if not the drivers seat for this season. Tomac is obviously extremely strong outdoors so he will be a contender.

I dont care what the haters think BUT I always include Reed in my favorites to atleast take some wins so I will throw his name in the basket as well. But of course if he's healthy, Kenny will be hard to stop.

I do hope Marvin can take it though. Ive been a fan of his for a while and with the way he's been riding and his training, Id find it hard to believe he's not at least on the podium every week.
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Roczen almost got the championship last year, showed the speed in supercross when he wasn't injured and has been playing it safe by not racing the last few SX races to be fully prepped for outdoors. I'm putting him in the number one spot for 450s, Dungey in second and Tomac in third since he seems to have been figuring things out. I think we'll have some good races so long as everyone stays on two wheels.

I have no idea really for the 250 class. My gut says Marvin since he's just an animal on the 250 but Cooper is really fast two and we have yet to see these guys go at it. Of course AC is in the mix now too and Martin is last year's champ but has been really inconsistent in SX, if that means anything for this outdoor season. 250 class should be a blast to watch this year! I'm hyped for it.

Malcom says he'd race anything so long as someone gives him a ride, an 85, 125, 250 or 450. :lol:
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Hey, I wonder since James can't race the national series this year and we known it for a while now rather than right at the beginning of the season, maybe Malcolm will fill in for him while he's gone. That'd be cool!
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450:
1) Ryan Dungey - Same bike, same team, same nearly everything. Everything that worked in a good way for him last year he kept the same and what needed to be changed got changed. KTM hired Aldon, he has a few more other people around him and he got the agression to win and win and win! I don't see anyone beating this Dungey yet!
2) Ken Roczen - For some reason I think he thinks inside his head he's better outdoors, since he's a European. So he'll feel less need to push it like he did in supercross. However he will come up short because of at least 1 DNF.
3) Weston Peick - Even though his fitness level isn't what it should be. He's just an animal. Tomac will take himself out with an unnecessary high speed crash and unfortunately he won't be as lucky as in supercross and he'll injure himself.

Random pick: Pourcel will end up in the top-5. Blake Bagget will win a national.

250:
1) Marvin Musquin - Kinda the same explanation then with Dungey. He knew KTM would do it, just like they did in Europe and he stick with them. Now they have it all rolling and the momentum the whole team has is nearly unbeatable
2) Jeremy Martin - He'll be right there everytime, but will come up short just that tiny little bit I'm afraid.
3) Arnaud Tonus - If he's all healed up from the virus he got early in the supercross season he'll be ready to go and show that Pro Circuit still has it.

Random pick: Like always there will be a shitload of talent fighting for every meter right behind the few that are just that tiny bit better.
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That's a shame, I like the step-up double to table way more than that thing.
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