Where do you expect AC to go? AC cut in once he had the line on the rider to his inside and then closed off the outside line so Smith didn't get the holeshot. Regardless, Osborne was already going down before AC started to go wide. If AC cut any closer to the inside he wouldn't have been able to carry as much momentum and possibly gave his line away to Osborne/Smith. With how Osborne has rode aggressively with people this season I don't see anyone giving him extra space to work with. 100% a racing incident in my opinion, the only person Osborne can really blame is himself for getting a bit too greedy in the first turn when he could have let up and funneled in. Championship will be interesting from here on out.Pumaxcs wrote:I don't see a problem with his start either. He had plenty of space right from the start to get out. Granted, he did cut a little sharp but the problem with the first turn was that Adam didn't huge the inside as tight as he could have and pushed everyone wide.
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AC had Alix on his inside until Smith cut over, he didn't really have anywhere to go either. Its a racing incident though. He was just trying to pull a holeshot, like the other 21 riders out therePumaxcs wrote:I don't see a problem with his start either. He had plenty of space right from the start to get out. Granted, he did cut a little sharp but the problem with the first turn was that Adam didn't huge the inside as tight as he could have and pushed everyone wide.
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Oh absolutely I'm not putting blame on anyone. Culmination of decisions lead to that. AC did what he needed to do when the rest of the field most likely thought he would hold a tighter line, considering how everyone was catching the tough blocks holding inside I don't blame him for carrying wider. Osbourne was already pushing on AC, when he didnt turn it started going south for him. He bounced outside and found Smith and then Alix. He didn't get a bad start but got boxed in and drew the short stick. If you look at Osbourne what he does to Savatgy is exactly the same thing Smith does to him a few feet later.Hi Im Skyqe wrote:Where do you expect AC to go? AC cut in once he had the line on the rider to his inside and then closed off the outside line so Smith didn't get the holeshot. Regardless, Osborne was already going down before AC started to go wide. If AC cut any closer to the inside he wouldn't have been able to carry as much momentum and possibly gave his line away to Osborne/Smith. With how Osborne has rode aggressively with people this season I don't see anyone giving him extra space to work with. 100% a racing incident in my opinion, the only person Osborne can really blame is himself for getting a bit too greedy in the first turn when he could have let up and funneled in. Championship will be interesting from here on out.Pumaxcs wrote:I don't see a problem with his start either. He had plenty of space right from the start to get out. Granted, he did cut a little sharp but the problem with the first turn was that Adam didn't huge the inside as tight as he could have and pushed everyone wide.
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You have to remember that someone like AC can feel Alix up his inside and has to time his braking point absolutely perfectly in order to A) Not get completely cut off by the people on his outside and B) Not get pushed into Osborne and company by Alix (which is what happened)
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You're obviously rhetorically asking that since you saw the race where Hill raced McElrath clean and even said at the end he races people the way he wants to be raced. This sport allows people to race dirty, which is usually interpreted as "you must race dirty to win". I will say again that there's MANY champions that got there without any paint traded. Much more exciting than watching a puntfest. I know how fun it is to have a respectful race where the truly fastest wins, not the opportunist. Lets the howls and moans begin from the peanut gallery.Ddavis wrote:Do you think Justin Hill would have cut over like Jordon Smith?
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How fucking stupid are you Havoc? If Justin Hill had TWENTY SECOND (That's 22nd in case you can't read that well) gate pick, you don't think he would cut over on the entire pack to get a good start? You are so delusional Havoc, holy shit.TeamHavocRacing wrote:You're obviously rhetorically asking that since you saw the race where Hill raced McElrath clean and even said at the end he races people the way he wants to be raced. This sport allows people to race dirty, which is usually interpreted as "you must race dirty to win". I will say again that there's MANY champions that got there without any paint traded. Much more exciting than watching a puntfest. I know how fun it is to have a respectful race where the truly fastest wins, not the opportunist. Lets the howls and moans begin from the peanut gallery.Ddavis wrote:Do you think Justin Hill would have cut over like Jordon Smith?
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Moving over on the start has nothing to do with being dirty Havoc, I didn't ask if he would cross jump 20 feet in the air, I asked if he would cut across the pack in order to get a good start and you ignore the question like a huge twat.
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Now THAT'S the pot calling the kettle black. At least I'm not bipolar and giving out death threats over a video game.Ddavis wrote:You are so delusional Havoc, holy shit.
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That's all you got? Damn, bringing up something that happened years ago now. Are you mad I'm right and you're wrong? I love people like you, old and delusional as fuck. Just because you were around when they still races Can-Ams doesn't make you less of a fucking idiot.
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No. Should I have mentioned your complexion too? I guess it's what you're used to when disagreeing with other kids all the time. I was nice enough to not mention your OCD and repressed latent homosexuality either. Just because you didn't have Tickles money doesn't mean you have to overcompensate all the time to get attention or praise. It's not about being right or wrong. Are telling me that someone that chooses to go out of their way to race clean is wrong? If you idolize someone like J-Law, Barcia, Freise, Anderson or Alessi then that say's a lot about who suits your personality. Their reputations precede them for all of the wrong reasons too. I'm not saying Smith is dirty before you try to assume that too. Yeah, my first Shoug natty was Hannah's last race which means in those 29 years I've gathered just a little bit of insight about this sport, sport. You don't need to race to know what's up.Ddavis wrote:That's all you got?
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When did I say I idolize riders who race dirty? You're trying really hard right now, old man.TeamHavocRacing wrote:Are telling me that someone that chooses to go out of their way to race clean is wrong? If you idolize someone like J-Law, Barcia, Freise, Anderson or Alessi then that say's a lot about who suits your personality. Their reputations precede them for all of the wrong reasons too.Ddavis wrote:That's all you got?
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The only thing I asked to start all of this is, do you think Justin Hill would have cut over if he was in Jordon Smith's position. That is the only thing I asked, and you brought up tickle's money, homosexuality, assuming I idolize dirty riders, OCD, death threats, and more. How much meth are you smoking dude?
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If you try to dig someone, you shouldn't be mad that he digs you back. Man up and give it back to him or accept that you got roasted by a senior citizen.
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He called you gay. I don't honestly know how you can possibly come back from that.
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As an unbiased party who just wants this to stop, I'd say this was the start
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