Tim Gajser/Ken Roczen crash MEC

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Re: Tim Gajser/Ken Roczen crash MEC

Postby Haberfield24 » Mon Oct 16, 2017 4:21 pm

m121c wrote:But something just seems odd here? Suspension brand and components doesn't mean anything if you are possibly getting abnormal force to the rear end.


Fact ^

That was exactly what i was trying to explain, I understand that Gajser is a supercross noob at it was bad timing. but i still think there's something more complex going on than just a rear shock.

Haberfield24 wrote: I think that it's strange that it is always on a Honda. A lot of things effect the feel of a bike not always just suspension. I.e. the frame material, subframe, swingarm and even engine mounts.


As i said before ^. Then Mr DDavis had to get all sarcastic.

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Re: Tim Gajser/Ken Roczen crash MEC

Postby Ddavis » Mon Oct 16, 2017 5:11 pm

Haberfield24 wrote:I don't understand the need for the sarcastic comment DDavis, i'm sure redbull and all your youth "i think i'm a straight shredder" sponsors don't pay you to be a cunt.


I haven't ridden in three years and haven't raced in almost 10 years, not sure what you're getting at here...
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Re: Tim Gajser/Ken Roczen crash MEC

Postby Ddavis » Mon Oct 16, 2017 6:41 pm

Come to think of it, my rear suspension collapsed in 2007 on my Honda 85. Honda sucks.
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Re: Tim Gajser/Ken Roczen crash MEC

Postby Ddavis » Mon Oct 16, 2017 9:27 pm

https://www.instagram.com/p/BaUNTnZhQsA/?taken-by=jgrmx

Off topic from Gajser/Roczen/Honda but the fact people think Justin Hoeft intentionally cross jumped Bogle and that Hoeft "has something coming for him in SX" BLOWS MY MIND. How fucking ignorant and stupid are these people in the comments? Have they ever raced before? The track was wet and you could see that. I'd be willing to bet that in that specific area of the track it was watered and probably even slightly mushy, I've been to Vegas and know how the track is first lap, they throw water on it to keep it moist all night long without constantly watering it throughout the program. I guarantee you Hoeft landed, committed to the triple, hit a tractor mark or rut that could honestly be an inch higher/lower than the rest of the track and it causes him to jump probably 3-5 degrees to the left of where he wanted to, but that triple was even bigger than a standard rhythm section triple (closer to a SX triple) and by the time he hit the landing he was probably 3-5 feet further left than a traditional rhythm section triple, which was enough to cut off Bogle in the air. The fact people think that Justin Hoeft would purposely cross jump another Pro, after losing his little brother only a few years ago in a motocross crash, is mind blowing.
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Re: Tim Gajser/Ken Roczen crash MEC

Postby jonracer594 » Mon Oct 16, 2017 9:51 pm

Ddavis wrote: .

Never thought Id say this but I agree with you on this one. You can even see how Hoeft is trying to correct his bike after he takes off to not crash himself.
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Re: Tim Gajser/Ken Roczen crash MEC

Postby Ddavis » Mon Oct 16, 2017 10:10 pm

jonracer594 wrote:
Ddavis wrote: .

Never thought Id say this but I agree with you on this one. You can even see how Hoeft is trying to correct his bike after he takes off to not crash himself.


Plus he cases the triple pretty bad, which furthers my opinion on him getting wheel spin and/or hitting a soft spot.
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Re: Tim Gajser/Ken Roczen crash MEC

Postby Bubba40 » Mon Oct 16, 2017 10:27 pm

Ddavis wrote:
jonracer594 wrote:
Ddavis wrote: .

Never thought Id say this but I agree with you on this one. You can even see how Hoeft is trying to correct his bike after he takes off to not crash himself.


Plus he cases the triple pretty bad, which furthers my opinion on him getting wheel spin and/or hitting a soft spot.

To me it looks like he clipped the first triple in so it got him a little of balanced for that 2nd triple and sadly crossed into bogle lines, nothing but a really bad racing accident. Who ever made that track was trying to kill the riders it's bs that track was so high speed and 1 line.
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Re: Tim Gajser/Ken Roczen crash MEC

Postby Haberfield24 » Tue Oct 17, 2017 12:27 am

Ddavis wrote:Big air cross up jump stuff fast nice triple


Couldn't agree more, its always the guys with an 04 KTM SX125 in their IG profile picture that are talking smack which makes me laugh.

https://www.instagram.com/p/BaP0RzIlELC ... ustinhoeft

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Re: Tim Gajser/Ken Roczen crash MEC

Postby Ddavis » Tue Oct 17, 2017 12:47 am

Guys, he races AX and outdoors, he knows what he's talking about.
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Re: Tim Gajser/Ken Roczen crash MEC

Postby Ddavis » Tue Oct 17, 2017 12:49 am

I wasn't at MEC but here's a quote from Vital's article

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Tim Gajser looked strong early in the first Cup main event, but he went down hard in the rhythm section that nearly all the top riders struggled with, and was quickly done for the night. We're guessing he learned a lot from the experience that he can use in the future. Will we see him again in a full-on Supercross? That remains to be seen.
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