MX vs ATV All out

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Postby RXR_Banjo » Mon Mar 26, 2018 3:42 pm

Even MCM2 (motocross madness 2) released in may 2000 had better physics (remember the sx tracks made by guys like RXR_FORMULADIRT... he made them so you couldnt hold it wide open and you had to be really precise.. same with AUS_TWISTED's tracks!!)

wilson213 wrote:It's interesting that one guy, 10 years ago, could make bike physics that are still better than all mx games released so far. This game looks terrible tbh. Unleashed looks like it has better physics that all out. It all just looks meh but I still want to try monster as game.
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Postby mxsrider96 » Mon Mar 26, 2018 8:40 pm

wilson213 wrote:It's interesting that one guy, 10 years ago, could make bike physics that are still better than all mx games released so far. This game looks terrible tbh. Unleashed looks like it has better physics that all out. It all just looks meh but I still want to try monster as game.

The thing you have to remember in the "Sim vs other MX games" argument is that all the games with teams of developers are supposed to be for everyone. Therefore, they want the physics to not be so hard to learn that Joe Blow, plays one race, goes "Fuck this game sucks" and then asks for a refund. Sim is for the extreme fans, like us that have stuck around for years, who are willing to work past the learning curve. So, the "Sim vs other mx games" argument really sucks. It's kinda like comparing red apples to green apples. Yes, they're the same thing, but they're meant for different people, or rather one is meant for a wider array of people. It's a weird comparison but it makes sense if you think about it
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Postby broland278 » Mon Mar 26, 2018 8:50 pm

Little off topic. So i just bought an XB1 this weekend and also preordered MVA. Anyone notice like a frame lag/fps drops? The menu and everything works perfect but when racing it feels like the game is stuttering. I am used to PC gaming on a high-end PC so the console is completely new to me.
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Postby motocross_will » Mon Mar 26, 2018 10:31 pm

So if you log on you might notice that everything has reset and youve lost everything lol
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Re: MX vs ATV All out

Postby wilson213 » Tue Mar 27, 2018 1:04 am

mxsrider96 wrote:
wilson213 wrote:It's interesting that one guy, 10 years ago, could make bike physics that are still better than all mx games released so far. This game looks terrible tbh. Unleashed looks like it has better physics that all out. It all just looks meh but I still want to try monster as game.

The thing you have to remember in the "Sim vs other MX games" argument is that all the games with teams of developers are supposed to be for everyone. Therefore, they want the physics to not be so hard to learn that Joe Blow, plays one race, goes "Fuck this game sucks" and then asks for a refund. Sim is for the extreme fans, like us that have stuck around for years, who are willing to work past the learning curve. So, the "Sim vs other mx games" argument really sucks. It's kinda like comparing red apples to green apples. Yes, they're the same thing, but they're meant for different people, or rather one is meant for a wider array of people. It's a weird comparison but it makes sense if you think about it


I do agree there are 2 different people who buy these games but they are still comparable since having a mix of mxsim and mxvsatv would be great. I think big developers have always catered to arcade physics for the simplicity of it though. Im just surprised they havent tried more realistic physics for the hardcore gamers. The graphics nowadays are great but gameplay is terrible. It just looks like youre floating around the track and on rails in the corner. They didnt have to make a simulator but make it more realistic. There are so many issues with mxvsatv physics, just not as smooth as you would think for a big dev.
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Postby Pumaxcs » Tue Mar 27, 2018 1:34 am

I would really like to know what audience this is aimed at though and if it responds the way they think? Honestly, an MX game is already such a closed market and if a large enough portion would be a consistent buyer of the product that wanted a Sim-like game then why do they try to appeal to this "wider market". Is that market actually there and how much of it are they getting? I feel like Milestone is the closest to getting it right, they still have work but the target audience is the person who actually enjoys the sport. MVA is just throwing shit at the wall and hoping someone notices.
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Postby Wahlamt » Tue Mar 27, 2018 7:06 am

broland278 wrote:Little off topic. So i just bought an XB1 this weekend and also preordered MVA. Anyone notice like a frame lag/fps drops? The menu and everything works perfect but when racing it feels like the game is stuttering. I am used to PC gaming on a high-end PC so the console is completely new to me.

Console games don't usually lag, since it's made for a fixed set of specifications. However Halo MCC lags a bit in split screen, some game lags when a major landscape has to render quick, but usually in my 10 years of console gaming, it's pretty solid.

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Postby damon99 » Tue Mar 27, 2018 11:29 am

broland278 wrote:Little off topic. So i just bought an XB1 this weekend and also preordered MVA. Anyone notice like a frame lag/fps drops? The menu and everything works perfect but when racing it feels like the game is stuttering. I am used to PC gaming on a high-end PC so the console is completely new to me.

They have a patch coming out probably today to fix performance issues. They claim it wasn't already fixed because it's "early access" and bugs should be expected.
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Re: MX vs ATV All out

Postby Andy_Hack » Tue Mar 27, 2018 7:51 pm

Why do you guys still buy their games in the first place? You know it'll be crap, you know you'll be dissapoined and you know you'll waste 50 bucks.
I'm usually all in for supporting motocross games that make it into the stores, but the MX vs. ATV crew obviously doesn't give a damn about us customers, so eff them. Monster Energy Supercross is a good example, that it's still possible to make a game, that us real life mx riders actually enjoy once we fade out, that it's not a simulator.
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Re: MX vs ATV All out

Postby Brock1198 » Tue Mar 27, 2018 9:01 pm

Andy_Hack wrote:Why do you guys still buy their games in the first place? You know it'll be crap, you know you'll be dissapoined and you know you'll waste 50 bucks.
I'm usually all in for supporting motocross games that make it into the stores, but the MX vs. ATV crew obviously doesn't give a damn about us customers, so eff them. Monster Energy Supercross is a good example, that it's still possible to make a game, that us real life mx riders actually enjoy once we fade out, that it's not a simulator.

actually its 35$
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Postby broland278 » Tue Mar 27, 2018 9:12 pm

Andy_Hack wrote:Why do you guys still buy their games in the first place? You know it'll be crap, you know you'll be dissapoined and you know you'll waste 50 bucks.
I'm usually all in for supporting motocross games that make it into the stores, but the MX vs. ATV crew obviously doesn't give a damn about us customers, so eff them. Monster Energy Supercross is a good example, that it's still possible to make a game, that us real life mx riders actually enjoy once we fade out, that it's not a simulator.


i bought it because you recommended it to me, what a let down
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Re: MX vs ATV All out

Postby Andy_Hack » Wed Mar 28, 2018 9:28 am

Brock1198 wrote:actually its 35$

woah that's a steal!

broland278 wrote:i bought it because you recommended it to me, what a let down

sorry Brandon, you think a hug could fix this? <3
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Postby DCreedz#523 » Wed Mar 28, 2018 11:26 am

Pumaxcs wrote:I feel like Milestone is the closest to getting it right, they still have work but the target audience is the person who actually enjoys the sport. MVA is just throwing shit at the wall and hoping someone notices.

TRUTH! There isn't a market anymore for non-moto fans to pick up a moto game like there once was.
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Re: MX vs ATV All out

Postby LOGANYZ125 » Wed Mar 28, 2018 3:27 pm

im having a blast with it .... I'd recommend getting a fully upgraded 4fatty before jumping to conclusions ...
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Re: MX vs ATV All out

Postby broland278 » Wed Mar 28, 2018 8:24 pm

broland278 wrote:i bought it because you recommended it to me, what a let down

sorry Brandon, you think a hug could fix this? <3[/quote]

Yeah I suppose that will work
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