2015 RFG National Number Quest

[Ddavis]

2014 Grand National Championship Points Standings after Round 7 Arlington
Byron Downen - 144
Hunter Root - 134
Dennis Fjeldberg - 131
Tysen Fresquez - 122
Matt Cromie - 117
Craig Richards - 112
Matt Burkeen - 108
Ryan Mahan - 100
Jeremy Smith - 98
Kyle Robb - 96
Jesse Mullins - 93
Jordan Vanderlee - 93
Clay Alfrey - 92
Tyler Schmidt - 71
Dominic Tibberino - 66
Jeremy Hinners - 64
Alexis Leclair - 61
Ludvig Botten - 61
Fred Heather - 58
James Armstrong - 57
Zack Dupuis - 55
Connor Holyak - 54
Kewin Feula - 50
Tony Spinelli - 48
Robert Nash - 46
Jonathan Olsson - 46
Kellen Brauer - 44
Brady Standley - 44
Andrew Wood - 39
Scott Woolford - 34
Matt James - 33
Race Karlin - 32
Jeremi Seabolt - 32
Jack Roberts - 32
Frank Kastermans - 31
Dade Honeywell - 30
Jon Rawlins - 30
Scott Simmons - 29
Jordan Olson - 27
Jason Pama - 27
Bailey Croom - 24
Craig Leake - 23
Peter Leik - 20
Cody Penwell - 19
Eduardo Simoes - 18
Josh Betts - 18
Sabrina Ritzler - 17
Kalle Midbeck - 17
Thomas Wilcox - 15
Holden Cote - 14
Gunar Fugler - 14
Jeremy Shipley - 13
Tyler Crain - 13
Tom Paterson - 13
Bryan Hale - 13
August Sanders - 12
Jack Jeffries - 11
Daniel Markham - 10
Kasey Oehlert - 10
Dwayne Iles - 10
Christian Cicero - 10
Ben McLeod - 9
Yohann Mayer - 9
Devin Ryan - 9
Jack Knight - 9
Brandon Langley - 8
Toby Stocks - 8
Jesse Hinde - 8
Mike Owen - 8
Brandon Berg - 8
Will Stockland - 7
Jeremy Squiabro - 7
Devin Davis - 7
Maxime Tison - 6
Roy Mitchell - 5
Jeremy Cohenour - 5
Jim Bailey - 5
Jack Fowler - 5
Joachim Noren - 4
Brett Mclaud - 3
Carson Tickle - 3
Zach Thorpe - 3
Cole Heberlein - 2
Fernando Andrade - 2
Chase Desselle - 2
Garrett Smith - 2
Skyler Kramer - 2
Owen Hillman - 2
Mason Clendenen - 1
Bryan Haskell - 1
Mitchell Culpepper - 1
Jack Paterson - 1
Robert Wilson - 1
Tyson Clark - 1
Fredrik Nordin - 1
Linus Mansson - 1
Austin Gourley - 1
Noah Baker - 1
Gustavo Diniz - 1
Jonas Nordli - 1
Chris Phillips - 1
Dakota Reed - 1

Note: I won't do predicted numbers until after Supercross is over. It's way too early to predict numbers with the final round 6 months away.

[iNoScope]

Atta boy Gustaaavo.

[AWood]

Sheeeit. Bring on outdoors already

[MX PRODIGY 17]

My quest consists of getting number 17.

[Robert196]

You can already put me in for #19 for next year. I've got my 25 points.

[checkerz]

Calling Wheels/Sween...

Although the AMA rule allows 250 SX points to be equal to 450 SX points, I think we can all agree that they aren't EQUAL! Looking at this "grand national championship" do you really think Hunter Root should be ranked ahead of Dennis and Tysen, and that 6 of the top 10 players are 250 riders? No offence Hunter or any of those 250 guys, you're all bad asses...

I say screw the AMA Rule, and put 250SX pts. worth .5. Still let them count for something, but even things out a bit. I mean, unless you really agree Josh Betts has Mikey Owen covered by 10 points.

[Ddavis]

These will be night and day different come September.. but here.
2 - Austin Jones*
4 - Jeremy Smith*
6 - Zack Dupuis*
7 - Bryan Haskell*
9 - Mike Owen*
10 - Jesse Mullins*
11 - Hunter Root
12 - Matt Cromie
13 - Craig Richards
14 - Jeremy Hinners*
15 - Matt Burkeen
16 - Tyler Crain*
17 - Ryan Mahan
18 - Kyle Robb
19 - Robert Nash*
20 - Clay Alfrey
21 - Tysen Fresquez*
22 - Tyler Schmidt
23 - Byron Downen*
24 - Dominic Tibberino
25 - Jordan Vanderlee*
26 - Alexis Leclair
27 - Ludvig Botten
28 - Fred Heather
29 - James Armstrong
30 - Connoy Holyak
31 - Kewin Feula
32 - Tony Spinelli
33 - Jonathan Olsson
34 - Taylor Barry*
35 - Kellen Brauer
36 - Brady Standley
37 - Andrew Wood
38 - Scott Woolford
39 - Jeremy Shipley*
40 - Matt James
41 - Race Karlin
42 - Jeremi Seabolt
43 - Jack Roberts
44 - Frank Kastermans
45 - Dade Honeywell
46 - Jon Rawlins
47 - Scott Simmons
48 - Jordan Olson
49 - Jason Pama
50 - Bailey Croom
51 - Craig Leake
52 - Peter Leik
53 - Cody Penwell
54 - Eduardo Simoes
55 - Daniel Markham*
56 - Josh Betts
57 - Sabrina Ritzler
58 - Kalle Midbeck
59 - Thomas Wilcox
60 - Holden Cote
61 - Gunar Fugler
62 - Tom Paterson
63 - Bryan Hale
64 - August Sanders
65 - Jack Jeffries
66 - Kasey Oehlert
67 - Dwayne Iles
68 - Nathan Zaworski*
69 - Dennis Fjeldberg*
70 - Christian Cicero
71 - Ben McLeod
72 - Yohann Mayer
73 - Devin Ryan
74 - Jack Knight
75 - Brandon Langley
76 - Toby Stocks
77 - Jesse Hinde
78 - Brandon Berg
79 - Will Stockland
80 - Jeremy Squiabro
81 - Devin Davis
82 - Maxime Tison
83 - Roy Mitchell
84 - Jeremy Cohenour
85 - Jim Bailey
86 - Jack Fowler
87 - Joachim Noren
88 - Brett Mclaud
89 - Carson Tickle
90 - Zach Thorpe
91 - Cole Heberlein
92 - Fernando Andrade
93 - Chase Desselle
94 - Garrett Smith
95 - Skyler Kramer
96 - Owen Hillman
97 - Mason Clendnen
98 - Mitchell Culpepper
99 - Jack Paterson

[Prada]

Chris, I think that's a silly thing to do. Butchering points to make the 450 guys look better? If you see them ride you'd know they are. And if one knew it was "grand national championship" then they would know that it is 450 and 250 combined. Not sure it is even a big deal other than literally making the 450 guys look higher up when really they aren't. Why fake something that actually isn't? Keep them the same.

[Ddavis]

Don't fix it if it isn't broken.

[Ddavis]

Calling Wheels/Sween...

Although the AMA rule allows 250 SX points to be equal to 450 SX points, I think we can all agree that they aren't EQUAL! Looking at this "grand national championship" do you really think Hunter Root should be ranked ahead of Dennis and Tysen, and that 6 of the top 10 players are 250 riders? No offence Hunter or any of those 250 guys, you're all bad asses...

I say screw the AMA Rule, and put 250SX pts. worth .5. Still let them count for something, but even things out a bit. I mean, unless you really agree Josh Betts has Mikey Owen covered by 10 points.

I don't know what you're smokin' Checkerz, but 450 guys get to do 29 rounds, while 250 class only gets to do 21 rounds (+8 more if they choose to ride the 450) and if they make up enough points in those 450 races to score equal points as the 450 guys, maybe they do deserve to be ranked ahead of them. Also, at this point were 7 rounds in. The 250 West guys have scored most of their points in their series and the 450 guys are nearly equal in points since they've done the same amount of races. The 250 West guys will go down in the standings towards the end of the East coast, and the 250 East coast will tighten the gap on the 250 West guys, while the 450 guys pull away in points. The top 5 in points in 250 will likely finish well inside the top 10 in 450 class and earn a low national number, but what does is matter, look at Jeremy Smith, Clay Alfrey, Ryan Mahan, Kyle Robb, and Dennis Fjeldberg, they all scored low numbers and are in contention for wins in 450 class. Typically we don't see 95% of the 250 West class try to race the 450 class on the East, that's why it seems to "unfair". Leave it how it is.

[JVanderlee225]

The 450 class is a joke now, it should count for .5 if anything. I couldn't take racing seriously on Sunday.

Oh well i got my 25 for 25.

[Burkeen820]

if it finished like this wouldn't I have a career number for being top 10? And all you guys beg for realism so leave the points alone, us west riders held it down in 450s just fine last week anyways

[Ddavis]

if it finished like this wouldn't I have a career number for being top 10? And all you guys beg for realism so leave the points alone, us west riders held it down in 450s just fine last week anyways

Top 10 in the overall standings would earn a permanent number, but it's to early to even predict what numbers they would decide to take. Outdoor champions can pick a single digit number but top 10 overall cannot.

[AuTo MaTik]

Chris, I agree and I disagree with you in a way. Kellen and myself were just talking about this and he made a very valid point. We've got 4 or 5 of the best 250 riders on one coast, and 4 or 5 of the best 250 riders on the other. After that it starts to drop off. SX I totally agree there could possibly be a .5 multiplier, but what about outdoors? The 250s and 450s race the same amount of rounds, and in some cases the 250 class is more competitive in a championship standpoint seeing as how the two coasts come together. This could definitely be up for discussion.

[Osari52]

I think you guys are mis-understanding Chris' point.

And Vanderlee, read what I said in the MO SX thread about the 450 class. There were a lot of people there on Sunday that I feel kind of shouldn't have been in the class but they were allowed to because of the A class rule change. That goes to you as well Burkeen, about 4 or 5 REALLY GOOD west riders held it down sure. But most of the rest were painfully ruining championship runs for some the top 450 riders. I know you were frustrated about something that happened between you and Tysen (not saying Tysen actions were just) but any west rider suddenly in this mix really needs to look at it with some serious different shoes on. Flashback to '10 when Stroupe (East rider) collected Reed's spokes with his footpeg. Not that Stroupe doesn't deserve to be racing against those guys but that DNF would have been a huge dent in Reed's chances at a title had he not ruined himself the following week. That's the scenario for Vanderlee, wasn't RIGHT in the title fight but was still close and had terrible luck and now has a mountain in front of him to even get back into the top 3.

I never really liked the 250 regional rule change to begin with. In Sim it's a whole different story. If you want the best points, the most prestige and feel like you are racing the best in the world in a video game then you should have to race the premiere class. Not like Root, Burkeen, Richards, Nash, Smith, Robb, Alfrey, Mahan, Hinners, Cromie, etc. NEED more time to develop their skills and are too young and not tall enough for a 450 or big enough or whatevs. Maybe it's just my assumption but I think most of the top 250 guys are there for a better shot at a title then having to face some of the aliens in the 450 class.

250 Nationals I don't really have much of a problem with because then every top 250 rider has to race against each other, THEY AREN'T SPLIT. That's why the points should be halved in my opinion. If it stays the same oh well, no skin off my bones but I just wanted you guys to look at it from a different view.