Best computer for MX SIM

[MX SIM RIDER]

I think this is the best computer for play Sim.

Processor: Amd FX-6 4300
Ram: 8 gb
Graphic Card: Nvidia Geforce Gt 750Ti 2gb
Hdd: 500 gb
Mother Board: You can chose 1 that is compatible with the gpu

[pinit24/7#12]

Best no, decent yes.

[LOGANYZ125]

Lol thats my PC

[Hi Im Skyqe]

That GPU would not handle high textures with 2 GB of VRAM. This would be my opinion on a at the moment 'best' build.

Intel I7 4790K
16 GB Ram (8 Per Stick)
Nvidia GTX 780 Ti (For most tracks it is identical to Titan, a select few the Titan will get better FPS. Another GPU that will perform good is the GTX 780 6GB)

[SMR 510RR]

That GPU would not handle high textures with 2 GB of VRAM. This would be my opinion on a at the moment 'best' build.

Intel I7 4790K
16 GB Ram (8 Per Stick)
Nvidia GTX 780 Ti (For most tracks it is identical to Titan, a select few the Titan will get better FPS. Another GPU that will perform good is the GTX 780 6GB)

That setup is way overkill unless you are going to use it for other stuff.

[MX SIM RIDER]

Guys, i just want a computer for plays sim and use fraps.
Nothing of more

[Pumaxcs]

That GPU would not handle high textures with 2 GB of VRAM. This would be my opinion on a at the moment 'best' build.

Intel I7 4790K
16 GB Ram (8 Per Stick)
Nvidia GTX 780 Ti (For most tracks it is identical to Titan, a select few the Titan will get better FPS. Another GPU that will perform good is the GTX 780 6GB)

Yep, I have a 4770k instead of the 4790k and a GTX 780 instead of the 780Ti so I can clearly see a frame rate difference. Instead of 125 FPS I get maybe 120-122.

[Hi Im Skyqe]

That GPU would not handle high textures with 2 GB of VRAM. This would be my opinion on a at the moment 'best' build.

Intel I7 4790K
16 GB Ram (8 Per Stick)
Nvidia GTX 780 Ti (For most tracks it is identical to Titan, a select few the Titan will get better FPS. Another GPU that will perform good is the GTX 780 6GB)

That setup is way overkill unless you are going to use it for other stuff.

Unfortunately it is not.. I own this setup and I can tell you first hand that it just barely is able to run maxed settings in sim on a full 40 man national gate. I needed to overclock to 4.8 ghz to run on the high res nationals pack with the high res tracks at 125 FPS. Lots of people will say 'You don't need to run at 120-125 FPS' once you have however, it is hard to go back to below 100 FPS with the not so smooth performance.

[SMR 510RR]

That GPU would not handle high textures with 2 GB of VRAM. This would be my opinion on a at the moment 'best' build.

Intel I7 4790K
16 GB Ram (8 Per Stick)
Nvidia GTX 780 Ti (For most tracks it is identical to Titan, a select few the Titan will get better FPS. Another GPU that will perform good is the GTX 780 6GB)

That setup is way overkill unless you are going to use it for other stuff.

Unfortunately it is not.. I own this setup and I can tell you first hand that it just barely is able to run maxed settings in sim on a full 40 man national gate. I needed to overclock to 4.8 ghz to run on the high res nationals pack with the high res tracks at 125 FPS. Lots of people will say 'You don't need to run at 120-125 FPS' once you have however, it is hard to go back to below 100 FPS with the not so smooth performance.

So you need a hyperthreading 4 core I7 to play a game that only uses one core? I believe not. The rerelease G3258 would perform just as good as the 4790k since MXS (and most games for that matter) can not take advantage of the extra cores. Now for other software the story is different depending on the software. The GPU is really just dependent on how low the user is willing to lower their graphics settings on a 40 rider gate (if they ever even ride with 40 riders).

[Hi Im Skyqe]

That setup is way overkill unless you are going to use it for other stuff.

Unfortunately it is not.. I own this setup and I can tell you first hand that it just barely is able to run maxed settings in sim on a full 40 man national gate. I needed to overclock to 4.8 ghz to run on the high res nationals pack with the high res tracks at 125 FPS. Lots of people will say 'You don't need to run at 120-125 FPS' once you have however, it is hard to go back to below 100 FPS with the not so smooth performance.

So you need a hyperthreading 4 core I7 to play a game that only uses one core? I believe not. The rerelease G3258 would perform just as good as the 4790k since MXS (and most games for that matter) can not take advantage of the extra cores. Now for other software the story is different depending on the software. The GPU is really just dependent on how low the user is willing to lower their graphics settings on a 40 rider gate (if they ever even ride with 40 riders).

I think you are missing the point or did not read my post. I said this would be the 'best' as in performance as you can see by the components selected, it would be able to run MXS at the high settings while running smooth with a 40 man gate which at that still took a bit of work to enable it to do this (slight overclock and setting changes in the nVidia control panel). Is Hyperthreading needed? No. Was I after clock speed? Yes. Clock speed of your CPU I have found is just as important as your GPU for MXS. The number of cores a CPU has doesn't help performance in MXS but realistically what 2 core on the market can run with a 4790k when it comes to clock speed? I posted a 'best' computer configuration to run MXS to its full capability while racing organized 40 man races nothing more nothing less. If someone was posting about a value build to run MXS nationals I would post a different configuration.

[SMR 510RR]

No you are not understanding. Yes your build works good for MXS but so would a much cheaper build. The G3258 gets almost the same frame rate as a 4790k (they both overclock to about the same core clock) in games that do not take advantage of more than 2 cores (MXS currently uses only 1). The G3258 costs $70 and the 4790k costs $340, not to mention the z97 platform is going to be more expensive overall and to OC to 4.7+ on the 4790k you will need an expensive air or AIO cooler. Since the G3258 only has 2 cores it generates very little heat even OC to 4.7+ so a cheap air cooler would be fine.

My point is that your build is overpriced if all someone wants to do is play MXS. Its like saying that a Bugatti Veyron is the best car for someone who just wants to get back and forth between work and home and run some errands. Will it work? Sure it will but that person could also save a lot of money and buy a Kia, it will get them back and forth to work just as good (maybe even better).

If your theory was correct then why wouldn't the best computer for MXS be a 4960x with quad Titan Blacks? It has more performance than your 4790k/780. Why don't we get really crazy and build a dual Xeon E5-4657LV2 crazy computer with 24 cores? Oh right because we will still only use 1 and the $8k you would spend on processors is just a waste of money.

Everyone has different needs in a computer, that is why there is no "best computer". Everyone also has a budget, I don't know anyone who likes paying more than they need to pay to do something. Maybe you need the 4790k (I just built a computer with one for my work computer and my home computer has a 4930k oc'd to 4.5ghz so I understand buying expensive stuff when it is helpful to me) but Joe Blow the MXS noob who needs a new computer to play this game doesn't have to spend $1000+ for a computer if all he wants to do is play MXS. Maybe he has enough money for a similar I5 build with a 760 that would be good for him. Maybe he also wants to create content for the game and he needs to use PS and 3d modeling software, there will be a build right for that too.

I think having a sticky with some builds in different price ranges with descriptions of what they will be able to do (what they are designed to do like just MXS, some mild PS, full blown workstation, etc.) would be helpful. I myself don't pretend to think I know enough to really optimize a build to the point of some of our members because there are just so many options. The one thing that would really screw something like this up is that in 6 months a new generation of everything will be introduced and no one will want to buy a GTX760 when the GTX860 is out and why buy a 4790k when there is a 5770k.

[Pumaxcs]

[Hi Im Skyqe]

No you are not understanding. Yes your build works good for MXS but so would a much cheaper build. The G3258 gets almost the same frame rate as a 4790k (they both overclock to about the same core clock) in games that do not take advantage of more than 2 cores (MXS currently uses only 1). The G3258 costs $70 and the 4790k costs $340, not to mention the z97 platform is going to be more expensive overall and to OC to 4.7+ on the 4790k you will need an expensive air or AIO cooler. Since the G3258 only has 2 cores it generates very little heat even OC to 4.7+ so a cheap air cooler would be fine.

My point is that your build is overpriced if all someone wants to do is play MXS. Its like saying that a Bugatti Veyron is the best car for someone who just wants to get back and forth between work and home and run some errands. Will it work? Sure it will but that person could also save a lot of money and buy a Kia, it will get them back and forth to work just as good (maybe even better).

If your theory was correct then why wouldn't the best computer for MXS be a 4960x with quad Titan Blacks? It has more performance than your 4790k/780. Why don't we get really crazy and build a dual Xeon E5-4657LV2 crazy computer with 24 cores? Oh right because we will still only use 1 and the $8k you would spend on processors is just a waste of money.

Everyone has different needs in a computer, that is why there is no "best computer". Everyone also has a budget, I don't know anyone who likes paying more than they need to pay to do something. Maybe you need the 4790k (I just built a computer with one for my work computer and my home computer has a 4930k oc'd to 4.5ghz so I understand buying expensive stuff when it is helpful to me) but Joe Blow the MXS noob who needs a new computer to play this game doesn't have to spend $1000+ for a computer if all he wants to do is play MXS. Maybe he has enough money for a similar I5 build with a 760 that would be good for him. Maybe he also wants to create content for the game and he needs to use PS and 3d modeling software, there will be a build right for that too.

I think having a sticky with some builds in different price ranges with descriptions of what they will be able to do (what they are designed to do like just MXS, some mild PS, full blown workstation, etc.) would be helpful. I myself don't pretend to think I know enough to really optimize a build to the point of some of our members because there are just so many options. The one thing that would really screw something like this up is that in 6 months a new generation of everything will be introduced and no one will want to buy a GTX760 when the GTX860 is out and why buy a 4790k when there is a 5770k.

Like I said you need to read my posts more thoroughly. You seem to be implying that I at some point said this build is the most cost effective.. Strictly performance oriented this IS the best build available for MXS.. MXS currently uses 2 cores on CPU and 1 core on GPU which is why I wouldn't recommend a dual core GPU nor a SLI or Crossfire configuration for MXS as it serves no purpose.. Without experience with a G3258 I would tend to believe that you would not run as smooth as a four core due to background processes, you can correct me on that though.

At the end of the day, I really do not understand what your beef is with the components I posted other than value which was never in the equation. If a person wants to run organized events with 40 man gate and maxed graphics that is the build you would need from my experience with tons of different hardware as most already know..

A thread like you are describing would be helpful for sure. most builds can stay relevant for a year if your lucky though.. With the speed of advancement in enthusiast components for computers it truly is hard to keep up or stay up to date.

[logansm323]

these are specs for a pre-built pc i found, should i be able to run a 40 man gate (medium settings) with decent fps? (50+)?
Motherboard-Gigabyte GA-970A-DS3P

CPU-AMD FX-6300 6-Core
RAM-Crucial Ballistix Sport 8GB DDR3 1600 MHz
Video Card-EVGA GeForce GTX 760 SuperClocked 2GB
Hard Drive-WD Blue 1 TB
Optical Drive-Asus 24x DVD Burner
Case-Rosewill Challenger ATX Mid Tower
Power Supply-Corsair Builder Series CX 500 Watt, (i know some of these parts dont matter, i just copied and pasted.)

AND IF NOT, if someone could that knows put the link to a $700 and below pre-built pc (i know thats not much to work with, but thats all i can do) that could run a 40 man gate with medium settings at playable fps that would be great. i have done lots of research, and now im just coming to the guys that know what theyre talking about haha. thanks! (if you see this in a few other computer topics im sorry ahead of time, just looking for a reply and a good pc.) thanks again!