Pole: Private Skins vs. No Private Skins

[MX196]

Ive just gotten tired of everyone being selfish and saaving all the good stuff to themselves. So I made this.

Pick one of the options and reply why you picked it.

No private skins because this is one of the many things that is tearing the community apart. It also seems that only creators of skins get the private stuff. I think no matter how bad/good it is, you should need to realease it.

JLV, I hope you can enforce these rules. Somehow. It used not to be a big problem, but now people are saving everything to themselves. It bugs me and a lot of other people. Even with Beta testing, we should still realaease them to the whole community so everyone can say what they like and dont like. This will be up for 1 week and hopefully JLV can either say no more private skins or you will get a ban, or I hate this idea.

Be honest when you vote and feel free to say why.

[yzmxer608]

I don't see this ending well...

If someone doesn't want to release their work I don't see why they have to. You are saying whatever someone makes they have to release it (at least that's what I got out of it).

[MX196]

Or atleast not post anything about it.

[JP37R]

I don't think any creator should be forced to release a skin, especially if it's not up to a standard that creator is happy with. Also, the creator should never be forced to release anything he/she feels is incomplete and is still working on. I don't see anything wrong with posting screenshots of unfinished skins as teasers for a future release, and I don't see anything wrong with a creator wanting to keep something "private".

[MX196]

Ok. This may make it easyer.

I just dont like when someone makes a good skin, then gives it out to only 15 people. (Their favorates) Then when one of us askes for it, they say no. You cant have it.
I think that may have been one of the reasons why people are leaving. Its not that when a creator makes something then keeps it to him/herself, it when they give it to some peole but when other people ask for it, they say no. Thats what im trying to say.

[Servatis]

the reason people are leaving is because people take the skins anyway even though the creator said no.

you make something, you decide what happens with it... it's common sense.

they can do whatever they want with it, if that bothers you thats your problem.. go make something cool and wave it in their faces if you want payback, 90% of the people here don't care.

When i created the bike setup application I was doing it with the community in mind, i could have just as well kept it for myself and my team mates and nobody would have the right to tell me to release it to the public.

it's not the community that decides what happens with someones skin, only the creator, therefore this poll is useless.

[yFMX]

hopefully JLV can either say no more private skins or you will get a ban

Seriously?

I'm pretty sure you would be ok with those private skins if you were one of the "favorites".

[checkerz]

Enforcing this would be silly and un-ethical, but I think some of the creators should step back and look in the mirror. Is their goal to help grow the community, or is their goal to just have some cool stuff for themselves? If their goal is to create cool stuff for themselves, maybe they should go through their personal folder and delete anything they didn't create. If their goal is to grow the community, they might want to consider a release of their stuff.

I'm all about helping others improve and providing as much quality in advice and downloads as I can, but I continue to question why when I see BS like "you can't have this bike, it's private". Yea... real "community".

BTW, I'm not talking about team skins, they have their own special place and reasons.

((rant over, going to work on my new private friends only track))

[MX196]

I just think that people should try an help the community. Team skins I understand about, but the people who make a skin, then give it to people, think to yourself what you would feel like if you saw this and then you went and asked for it, then the creator says no. All I want is for people to think about their private skins. Put youself im our place. (By our I mean all the people who want your skins.)

Enforcing this would be silly and un-ethical, but I think some of the creators should step back and look in the mirror. Is their goal to help grow the community, or is their goal to just have some cool stuff for themselves? If their goal is to create cool stuff for themselves, maybe they should go through their personal folder and delete anything they didn't create. If their goal is to grow the community, they might want to consider a release of their stuff.

I'm all about helping others improve and providing as much quality in advice and downloads as I can, but I continue to question why when I see BS like "you can't have this bike, it's private". Yea... real "community".

I agree with this 99.9% The other .1% is because I dont know what un-ethical means. I even think that enforcing this is silly, just creators, look at it in diffrent ways.

[Showtime]

just a little suggestion, maybe private skin files could be given to anyone, but set permissions to where everyone can see them but only some people can use them?

[checkerz]

just a little suggestion, maybe private skin files could be given to anyone, but set permissions to where everyone can see them but only some people can use them?

and this solves the problem how?

[tyskorn]

((rant over, going to work on my new private friends only track))

I don't see why you would do this,seeing as you hate how people keep their things private.So why would you do what you hate?By the way,I'm not saying this because I am trying to be a suck-up and get you to release the track.

Best regards.

[checkerz]

((rant over, going to work on my new private friends only track))

I don't see why you would do this,seeing as you hate how people keep their things private.So why would you do what you hate?By the way,I'm not saying this because I am trying to be a suck-up and get you to release the track.

Best regards.

Was being sarcastic, as I wouldn't do that... though it's crossed my mind if people want to keep stuff private that I could too.

[hvpunk62]

Dude some things arnt released for reasons..models because rthe creator isnt happy with them skin,etc

[checkerz]

Dude some things arnt released for reasons..models because rthe creator isnt happy with them skin,etc

so... they are good enough to give to some people, but not good enough to release? Yup, not buying it. Now I can understand putting it on the forum as a download and not on Pure and stating it isn't up to your quality.

In the end, it's up to the creator, but I'm still saying the creators should step back and look at this from a different view.