2022-11-03 snapshot (updated 2022-11-24)

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Re: 2022-11-03 snapshot

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I don't know shit about this but how about a W for JLV still grinding.
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Re: 2022-11-03 snapshot

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jlv wrote: Wed Nov 09, 2022 1:43 am I don't want to do the full pyramid since I'm planning on dynamically adding decals to show bike tracks and more textures will make that slower. The new code is more flexible though, so adding an option for the full pyramid would be easy enough.

Does it look OK to you if you set the terrain textures to 4096x4096? I know 4096x4096 is slow right now but it's going to get faster in future updates.
Decal drop in the pipeline that's what I'm talking about 8)

I have been using 4k textures with terrain textures set to 4096x4096 and it does look okay!

512X512 textures with terrain textures set to 4096
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4096x4096 textures with terrain textures set to 4096
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What is the current vram ceiling? There are quite abit of people running 8GB cards or more these days I think youll be able to add full pyramid back in eventually. Also I do like the idea to choose what works best for your system
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It doesn't limit based on texture memory. If you run out you'll just get blank textures as the texture allocations fail. It's kind of a fuzzy limit since integrated graphics will use system memory if it goes over the preallocated video memory. But with the texture pyramid the detail is centered near the camera so size isn't a big issue. If you have the full pyramid each level covers 4x the area as the previous level but uses the same size texture. So even with a 4k track it'd only be 6 levels. With 4k textures that'd be under 1 GB.

The issue is actually rendering those textures. The big textures take a lot of fill rate especially if there are a lot of overlapping decals. Incremental updates will help with that by spreading it over more frames but it'll take more frames for the update to show if there are more levels. So I want to find a good balance between detail and update speed.

Anyway, I can definitely make it possible for the user to select which levels are skipped.
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Re: 2022-11-03 snapshot

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Hey JLV I've been having one more issue with editing 4K tracks. Moving statues is fine but moving decals around is super laggy like not even 1 FPS. Is there some setting I could adjust to make that better?

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Re: 2022-11-03 snapshot

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jgmtbike wrote: Sun Nov 13, 2022 10:19 pm Hey JLV I've been having one more issue with editing 4K tracks. Moving statues is fine but moving decals around is super laggy like not even 1 FPS. Is there some setting I could adjust to make that better?

Thanks!
Might help to turn down the terrain texture resolution.
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Re: 2022-11-03 snapshot

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jlv wrote: Mon Nov 14, 2022 1:52 am
jgmtbike wrote: Sun Nov 13, 2022 10:19 pm Hey JLV I've been having one more issue with editing 4K tracks. Moving statues is fine but moving decals around is super laggy like not even 1 FPS. Is there some setting I could adjust to make that better?

Thanks!
Might help to turn down the terrain texture resolution.
Didnt really help... :(

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jgmtbike wrote: Mon Nov 14, 2022 3:43 am Didnt really help... :(

All good I'm sure with future updates everything will get better
Adding a decal on top is going to get way faster. Moving a decal isn't going to get much faster although incremental rendering will at least let the game continue to run while it's working on it.

What GPU are you using?
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Re: 2022-11-03 snapshot

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jlv wrote: Tue Nov 15, 2022 1:31 am
jgmtbike wrote: Mon Nov 14, 2022 3:43 am Didnt really help... :(

All good I'm sure with future updates everything will get better
Adding a decal on top is going to get way faster. Moving a decal isn't going to get much faster although incremental rendering will at least let the game continue to run while it's working on it.

What GPU are you using?
I have a GeForce RTX 2070 :D
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Re: 2022-11-03 snapshot (updated 2022-11-24)

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Fixed some bugs. Didn't think it deserved a new post so I just added it to this one.
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Re: 2022-11-03 snapshot (updated 2022-11-24)

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jlv wrote: Fri Nov 25, 2022 2:50 am Fixed some bugs. Didn't think it deserved a new post so I just added it to this one.
Hi jlv, apologies if this isn't the appropriate place to post this.

After this snapshot update, on high detail settings I am getting a strange feeling lag when I didn't before. I don't think it's frame drop, but feels like frame timing maybe? Not quite sure how to describe it. It feels like frame drop but isn't showing frame drop in the fps counter. Looks like very short frame skips. I can probably provide a recording if necessary. I'm on a 3070 with a R7 5700G. Any idea what I should try to change?
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Re: 2022-11-03 snapshot (updated 2022-11-24)

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sorry for double post,

I also am noticing that the terrain is rendering differently, and it appears that terrain is rendering blurry until I am basically on top of it. I haven't changed any settings so I'm not sure why the terrain is appearing differently as well.
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Re: 2022-11-03 snapshot (updated 2022-11-24)

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Worldeater wrote: Sat Nov 26, 2022 12:13 am sorry for double post,

I also am noticing that the terrain is rendering differently, and it appears that terrain is rendering blurry until I am basically on top of it. I haven't changed any settings so I'm not sure why the terrain is appearing differently as well.
Use higher resolution for the terrain. I'm hoping 4096x4096 will be playable once I have incremental texture rendering going, but for now try 1024x1024.
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Re: 2022-11-03 snapshot (updated 2022-11-24)

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jlv wrote: Sat Nov 26, 2022 1:14 am
Worldeater wrote: Sat Nov 26, 2022 12:13 am sorry for double post,

I also am noticing that the terrain is rendering differently, and it appears that terrain is rendering blurry until I am basically on top of it. I haven't changed any settings so I'm not sure why the terrain is appearing differently as well.
Use higher resolution for the terrain. I'm hoping 4096x4096 will be playable once I have incremental texture rendering going, but for now try 1024x1024.
This works great, thanks for the help. :)
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Re: 2022-11-03 snapshot (updated 2022-11-24)

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