2023-02-06 snapshot

[jlv]

It is for racing, lags a couple seconds out of the gate for both me and my friend on high gpu's and this is pretty essential for racing scenarios. This post I made on the old snapshot highlights what's happening, it still happens on this snapshot.

OK. I tested with a fastlap demo so the camera was moving right off the bat which probably wasn't the best choice. It might be hard to truly fix it since it's likely to be something the driver's doing that's outside my control. If it waits until the camera moves I can probably force it to happen before the gate drops by unnecessarily redrawing the textures a few times.

[Jakob Hubbard]

OK. I tested with a fastlap demo so the camera was moving right off the bat which probably wasn't the best choice. It might be hard to truly fix it since it's likely to be something the driver's doing that's outside my control. If it waits until the camera moves I can probably force it to happen before the gate drops by unnecessarily redrawing the textures a few times.

Sucks that it's a driver issue and mostly out of your control. If there's any way to just eliminate the second lag spike after the gate drops then that would be sufficient enough for me.

[jlv]

Sucks that it's a driver issue and mostly out of your control. If there's any way to just eliminate the second lag spike after the gate drops then that would be sufficient enough for me.

Seems like the Nvidia driver lags the first time you render to a texture. (I should have noticed that the slow frames matched the number of textures - 3 levels of color/norm/spec plus a color/norm/spec as a back buffer = 12 total textures.) I just cleared all the textures when it loads the track and it seems happy now. Give this a test:

https://mxsimulator.com/snapshots/mx-2023-02-13-1644.exe
https://mxsimulator.com/snapshots/mxbin-2023-02-13-1644

[Racers52]

Seems to have fixed it for me

[Jakob Hubbard]

Seems like the Nvidia driver lags the first time you render to a texture. (I should have noticed that the slow frames matched the number of textures - 3 levels of color/norm/spec plus a color/norm/spec as a back buffer = 12 total textures.) I just cleared all the textures when it loads the track and it seems happy now. Give this a test:

https://mxsimulator.com/snapshots/mx-2023-02-13-1644.exe
https://mxsimulator.com/snapshots/mxbin-2023-02-13-1644

Fixed it for me! Perfect!

[Jakob Hubbard]

I've been switching between the 2-13-23 snapshot and the 5-19-22 snapshot and I've been feeling a difference in the way my bike handles in the same scenarios. The bike feels stiffer like either something in the bike is different or my advanced stability or something to do with controller latency but just it doesn't feel like I have the same control on this newer version compared to the 5-19-22 snapshot. I could be insane but I swear with the exact same config/controller settings and advanced/stability settings and dyno I just feel stiffer and not as reactive comparatively.

[Jakob Hubbard]

Pretty sure it's just placebo though, nothing has been changed since then that would effect the physics I believe.

[jlv]

Frame rate might be more stable now. That could make it feel slower. Could be a visual thing since the most terrain texture detail is concentrated in slightly different areas now.

[Racers52]

/toggledecals is still not working for me on this snapshot, a quick fix would be super appreciated!

The saying is true, you never know what you have till its gone

[TeamShortBus276]

I haven't been able to get a snapshot to run since 03-31-2021 snapshot. Could it be a problem with having sim run from my D:/ drive? The following is my lastlog.txt from running the 2021-03-31-1566 snapshot. The latest doesn't write anything when it fails to open.

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[93:58:24.58] Logfile "C:/Users/Zach/AppData/Local/MX Simulator/lastlog.txt" opened
[93:58:24.58] JUGL 0.31
[93:58:24.58] MX Simulator version 2021-03-31-1566 snapshot
[93:58:24.58] Display scaling disabled via SetProcessDpiAwareness
[93:58:24.59] Registry mode is 1920x1080x32@120hz
[93:58:24.59] Found mode 640x480x32@59hz
[93:58:24.59] Found mode 720x480x32@60hz
[93:58:24.60] Found mode 720x576x32@50hz
[93:58:24.60] Found mode 800x600x32@100hz
[93:58:24.60] Found mode 1024x768x32@100hz
[93:58:24.60] Found mode 1152x864x32@100hz
[93:58:24.60] Found mode 1176x664x32@50hz
[93:58:24.60] Found mode 1280x720x32@60hz
[93:58:24.60] Found mode 1280x768x32@100hz
[93:58:24.60] Found mode 1280x800x32@100hz
[93:58:24.60] Found mode 1280x960x32@100hz
[93:58:24.60] Found mode 1280x1024x32@100hz
[93:58:24.60] Found mode 1366x768x32@100hz
[93:58:24.60] Found mode 1600x900x32@100hz
[93:58:24.60] Found mode 1600x1024x32@100hz
[93:58:24.60] Found mode 1680x1050x32@100hz
[93:58:24.60] Found mode 1768x992x32@25hz
[93:58:24.60] Found mode 1440x900x32@100hz
[93:58:24.60] Options:
[93:58:24.60]  threaded: [off]
[93:58:24.61] Creating window
[93:58:24.65] Foregrounded and locked
[93:58:24.65] Creating DirectInput object
[93:58:24.96] DirectInput roll call...
[93:58:25.03] Wireless Controller (Wireless Controller)
[93:58:25.03] 6 axes, 14 keys
[93:58:25.03] axis 0 is absolute
[93:58:25.03] axis 1 is absolute
[93:58:25.03] axis 2 is absolute
[93:58:25.03] axis 3 is absolute
[93:58:25.03] axis 4 is absolute
[93:58:25.03] axis 5 is absolute
[93:58:25.03] Adding axis "WirelessController axis 0"
[93:58:25.03] Adding axis "WirelessController axis 1"
[93:58:25.03] Adding axis "WirelessController axis 2"
[93:58:25.03] Adding axis "WirelessController axis 3"
[93:58:25.03] Adding axis "WirelessController axis 4"
[93:58:25.03] Adding axis "WirelessController axis 5"
[93:58:25.03] End of DirectInput roll call
[93:58:25.03] XInput roll call...
[93:58:25.03] End of XInput roll call
[93:58:25.03] Choosing pixel format
[93:58:25.09] Setting pixel format 9
[93:58:25.09] Creating OpenGL context
[93:58:25.11] Listing directories
[93:58:26.61] Listing archives
[93:58:26.71] Creating file list
[93:58:26.72] File index complete
[93:58:26.92] 4 texture units
[93:58:26.92] GL_VENDOR: NVIDIA Corporation
[93:58:26.92] GL_RENDERER: NVIDIA GeForce GTX 1060 with Max-Q Design/PCIe/SSE2
[93:58:26.92] GL_VERSION: 4.6.0 NVIDIA 516.94
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[93:58:30.06] Deallocating bikes
[93:58:30.06] Finished deallocating bikes
[93:58:30.06] Deallocating track
[93:58:30.06] Finished deallocating track
[93:58:30.07] Freeing memory (1)
[93:58:30.08] Closing input devices
[93:58:30.09] Closing audio
[93:58:30.10] Writing config files
[93:58:30.10] Freeing memory (2)
[93:58:30.11] Freeing memory (3)
[93:58:30.12] Freeing file list
[93:58:30.13] Freeing memory (4)
[93:58:30.14] Deleting textures
[93:58:30.15] Deleting models
[93:58:30.15] Deleting OpenGL context
[93:58:30.17] Closing input devices
[93:58:30.17] Killing WirelessController
[93:58:30.17] Destroying window
[93:58:30.23] Window shutdown complete

[Wahlamt]

If it completely fails, have you allowed it to "open anyway" or whatever prompt it gives you when you try to open a downloaded executable? There isn't any anti-virus software blocking it?

[jlv]

The big change in 2021-11-22 was the switch to OpenGL version 3.1 core. It looks like you have 4.6.0 so you'd think it'd work. It might help to add this to the command line parameters to force it to select a 4.6 context.

--glversion 4.6compatibility

[CalBone347]

can anyone help me on this, everytime i put it in game, and made it mx and put the others backup, its saying contacting server endlessly.

[Jakob Hubbard]

can anyone help me on this, everytime i put it in game, and made it mx and put the others backup, its saying contacting server endlessly.

Make sure anti-virus isn't blocking connections, probably the most common reason why this would be happening.

[Hayden_Scott]

Ong we need a new snapshot with something interesting in it and fps fixes etc