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Ruts and rough

Posted: Thu Nov 14, 2024 1:58 am
by Nxsty|Graphic Prod.
Im making this post because i suck at making ruts
how i get my ruts like rf ruts:
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Another great example is BAC's Mx California Heaven
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And this is my track:
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like look at ts bro :cry:
Ik they aint use gradients so if someone could show me or send me how to do it my discord is:im_bane.
I would also appreciate if someone could help me with rough. :D
help is appreciated

Re: Ruts and rough

Posted: Thu Nov 14, 2024 2:31 am
by AtlasZoor
Pretty sure rf and bac's track are using the newer 4k terrain whereas your terrain is 2k giving you those ruts. If you were to build those ruts on a 4k terrain and a little smaller they would probably come out a lot better. You can make 2k ruts look like that but it just takes more time and skill. Also, I'm not sure how you would upscale a 2k track to 4k, so you might have to restart which would suck.

Re: Ruts and rough

Posted: Thu Nov 14, 2024 2:43 am
by Nxsty|Graphic Prod.
AtlasZoor wrote: Thu Nov 14, 2024 2:31 am Pretty sure rf and bac's track are using the newer 4k terrain whereas your terrain is 2k giving you those ruts. If you were to build those ruts on a 4k terrain and a little smaller they would probably come out a lot better. You can make 2k ruts look like that but it just takes more time and skill. Also, I'm not sure how you would upscale a 2k track to 4k, so you might have to restart which would suck.
I'm fine with restarting because I'm only on corner 2 but how I get it to 4K?

Re: Ruts and rough

Posted: Thu Nov 14, 2024 8:34 pm
by Wahlamt
Nxsty|Graphic Prod. wrote: Thu Nov 14, 2024 2:43 am
AtlasZoor wrote: Thu Nov 14, 2024 2:31 am Pretty sure rf and bac's track are using the newer 4k terrain whereas your terrain is 2k giving you those ruts. If you were to build those ruts on a 4k terrain and a little smaller they would probably come out a lot better. You can make 2k ruts look like that but it just takes more time and skill. Also, I'm not sure how you would upscale a 2k track to 4k, so you might have to restart which would suck.
I'm fine with restarting because I'm only on corner 2 but how I get it to 4K?
Think I explain it somewhat in here, but instead of 2049, it's 4097. Also 11 instead of 10 in terrain.hf. Then you also need to make the 2nd value smaller by half.

Re: Ruts and rough

Posted: Sun Nov 17, 2024 2:47 am
by Nxsty|Graphic Prod.
Wahlamt wrote: Thu Nov 14, 2024 8:34 pm
Nxsty|Graphic Prod. wrote: Thu Nov 14, 2024 2:43 am
AtlasZoor wrote: Thu Nov 14, 2024 2:31 am Pretty sure rf and bac's track are using the newer 4k terrain whereas your terrain is 2k giving you those ruts. If you were to build those ruts on a 4k terrain and a little smaller they would probably come out a lot better. You can make 2k ruts look like that but it just takes more time and skill. Also, I'm not sure how you would upscale a 2k track to 4k, so you might have to restart which would suck.
I'm fine with restarting because I'm only on corner 2 but how I get it to 4K?
Think I explain it somewhat in here, but instead of 2049, it's 4097. Also 11 instead of 10 in terrain.hf. Then you also need to make the 2nd value smaller by half.
so my terrain.hf file should be {11 5.500000 -31.457733 136.845108?}

Re: Ruts and rough

Posted: Sun Nov 17, 2024 11:50 pm
by BDawg
Nxsty|Graphic Prod. wrote: Sun Nov 17, 2024 2:47 am so my terrain.hf file should be {11 5.500000 -31.457733 136.845108?}
5.5 for your hf scale is massive and would give you spikey, jagged ruts like you have. probably dont even need to go over 1 unless youre making something huge. For example, 2024 Fox raceway was 0.52

Re: Ruts and rough

Posted: Wed Nov 20, 2024 1:37 am
by Jakob Hubbard
Nxsty|Graphic Prod. wrote: Sun Nov 17, 2024 2:47 am so my terrain.hf file should be {11 5.500000 -31.457733 136.845108?}
The second value of your terrain.hf is a representative value of ft / pixel. When it's at 5.5, every pixel on your terrain.png will represent 5.5ft (roughly - there is always 1 extra row and column of pixels on the terrain.png). One way to alleviate that is by raising your terrain.png size. But with that terrain.hf it looks like you're already at 4097.

I'm not sure why you'd an 18 square mile track but that's just me :lol:

Re: Ruts and rough

Posted: Wed Nov 20, 2024 1:46 am
by Jakob Hubbard
DP but here's a good resource that kind of reiterates my point viewtopic.php?f=11&t=1134&hilit=terrain.hf