MUD is a shit game

[Sandhapper]

I readed the Q and A page... and its a very cool game I gues, it looks like something like Mtx Mototrax, wich I still love.

[rideblue56]

the game is still in development, calm down

What you n00bs have seen so far aint the finished product.

I believe thats the exact same thing everyone said about Alive AND Reflex when people said the game looked like shit in the dev stages. Guess what, it never changed.

[Lolerbabop]

This aint reflex or alive.

[rideblue56]

Looks just like it so far.

[Lolerbabop]

Nah.

[Kawasakis]

I don't really think they'll make anything better than what they had in the video. But we'll see of course, might be a miracle.

[BergaCr85]

I don't really think they'll make anything better than what they had in the video. But we'll see of course, might be a miracle.

kawasakis you're serious

[BergaCr85]

the game is still in development, calm down

What you n00bs have seen so far aint the finished product.

I believe thats the exact same thing everyone said about Alive AND Reflex when people said the game looked like shit in the dev stages. Guess what, it never changed.

yes i said is a shit because i see the game 3 times

[Lolerbabop]

You havent seen the final game.

[Motofinne #375]

just wait for the final product. Especially for the pc version, it would be sick with mods!

[scheeve3]

Making an useless topic like this even before you had the chance to play the game ... that is shit.

I'm not saying it will be a good game, but serious? Why did you need to make a topic like this when you've got these topics already: http://forum.mxsimulator.com/viewtopic.php?f=5&t=12977
http://forum.mxsimulator.com/viewtopic.php?f=5&t=11113

[checkerz]

First off, it's nice to be on this side of these conversations. I do agree it's a bit unfair to judge, so you just have to look at the facts and align your expectations.

It may be an extremely fun game - I thought Reflex was a blast as well before it came out. Was it perfect, no - but I did think it was fun for what it was trying to be.

MUD may be fun... but it isn't the type of game that will replace Sim.

Set your expectations. It isn't going to change a ton.

Stuff can change, and will change, but if they are showing the game it's likely just before or just after Alpha. What that means? The engine behind the game is basically handled, everything at this point will simply be fine tuning. You might get a bit more slip here, a bit more lean here, and maybe a major change to one or two pieces max.

The tracks won't be changing - just the visuals. Why? Cuz you change the terrain and you have to change the whole environment. Looks pretty lame in track design to me.

And about the audio... they show in their dev diary recording on a dyno. From experience, that doesn't work well at all. You can't simulate real life riding without actually riding. The best audio sound in an MX game is prolly RC's MX Matchup by 2XL, the best feedback is definitely MXS. I'd take MXS's feedback over sound clips any day.

Flame Alive and Reflex all you want, but this game had 2 years to copy everything they did and fix everything they did wrong; yet I am willing to be it isn't even in the ball park. Making MX games is hard. Yes, you should all bow to JLV immediately.

[BergaCr85]

you're right checkerz make game is hard,but if make game is too hard or you make a great not spectacular just great or you don't make a game.
Correct

[richy34]

you're right checkerz make game is hard,but if make game is too hard or you make a great not spectacular just great or you don't make a game.
Correct

okay i totally get what ur trying to say

[ShowtimeMx]

First off, it's nice to be on this side of these conversations. I do agree it's a bit unfair to judge, so you just have to look at the facts and align your expectations.

It may be an extremely fun game - I thought Reflex was a blast as well before it came out. Was it perfect, no - but I did think it was fun for what it was trying to be.

MUD may be fun... but it isn't the type of game that will replace Sim.

Set your expectations. It isn't going to change a ton.

Stuff can change, and will change, but if they are showing the game it's likely just before or just after Alpha. What that means? The engine behind the game is basically handled, everything at this point will simply be fine tuning. You might get a bit more slip here, a bit more lean here, and maybe a major change to one or two pieces max.

The tracks won't be changing - just the visuals. Why? Cuz you change the terrain and you have to change the whole environment. Looks pretty lame in track design to me.

And about the audio... they show in their dev diary recording on a dyno. From experience, that doesn't work well at all. You can't simulate real life riding without actually riding. The best audio sound in an MX game is prolly RC's MX Matchup by 2XL, the best feedback is definitely MXS. I'd take MXS's feedback over sound clips any day.

Flame Alive and Reflex all you want, but this game had 2 years to copy everything they did and fix everything they did wrong; yet I am willing to be it isn't even in the ball park. Making MX games is hard. Yes, you should all bow to JLV immediately.

Checkerz my friend you hit it right on the money. I myself have always dreamed of making my own motocross game, but in my quest to create one I have come to one hard cold truth. PHYSICS FOR A MOTORCYCLE GAME ARE INCREDIBLY HARD. Anybody that can make good physics for motorcycle type games deserves a lot of credit. (JLV hats off to ya) Now if only you would work on something we like to call the end user UI said cause it is horrible for gear and bike selection if I have to download one more set of blue gear with this color alpinestar boots im going to pull my hair out.

Mud graphically looks incredible but they missed the mark on scrubs and that gay boost thing. If the pc version allows checkers to make some tracks will be set, then maybe a little modding of physics and we should have ourselves a decent mx game. As of right now ill buy it but guranteed that scrub and boost will be the down fall of this game, (look how jerky it is when you bring the scrub back).

Anywho just my two cents, Mx sim is still a great game as far as physics go, but like I said I wish JLV would allow seperate boots and update the UI cause it makes little babies in china cry everytime i have to select something in MX SIM DOS menu.