6d helmets.

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Re: 6d helmets.

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If you look at how the Leatt brace is designed to prevent neck and spinal injuries from an anatomical point of view, and throw in some physics in there, I don't see how they could not help prevent neck injuries, but that's just me. I'll keep wearing mine, it doesn't bother me when I ride, so why not wear it?
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I agree, I even wear it with the body straps and I don't notice the brace at all when riding, unless I purposefully try to hit it with my helmet looking down (never move my head down that far when actually riding anyway).
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To answer your question Tom, yes dirtbikebitz is a good place to buy stuff.
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Re: 6d helmets.

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The one big thing that all neck braces miss (which is very common in spinal cord/neck injuries and probably the most important) is compression. The leatt has no physical way to prevent any spinal compression, its just designed to prevent whiplash and other injuries that involved the spine being twisted irregularly. If you took a hit to the head which compressed the spine by just short of an inch, you've already done damage to your spine. The leatt could help shorten the gap between the bottom of your helmet and the leatt itself, but it won't be anywhere near close enough to prevent a compression injury.
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Tom cortvriendt wrote:I'm also wondering if a bodyprotector helps as much as everyone thinks. Because many Grand Prix/Ama riders are not wearing one. Herlings, Wilson, Durham, Grant, Decotis, Coldenhoff, Anstie, van horebeek and many more. Are they not wearing them to fight against the heat? Or is to act tough? I don't know.
On a track with clay or rocks, I would wear one. No one likes roost from hardpack/clay tracks straight to the body. :lol:
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Lynch wrote:To answer your question Tom, yes dirtbikebitz is a good place to buy stuff.
Thanks for that one :wink:
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Re: 6d helmets.

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lets be honest every one just wears them cause they look badass. :lol:
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Post by MX PRODIGY 17 »

Definitely interesting. I just got one for christmas so I guess we shall see. Thanks for the info
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Re: 6d helmets.

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MiNi wrote:The one big thing that all neck braces miss (which is very common in spinal cord/neck injuries and probably the most important) is compression. The leatt has no physical way to prevent any spinal compression, its just designed to prevent whiplash and other injuries that involved the spine being twisted irregularly. If you took a hit to the head which compressed the spine by just short of an inch, you've already done damage to your spine. The leatt could help shorten the gap between the bottom of your helmet and the leatt itself, but it won't be anywhere near close enough to prevent a compression injury.
The only thing is your range of movement if it accounted that much for the compression would be so limited I think it'd be hard to ride. You wouldn't be able to look around you without hitting the brace (who can keep their head perfectly horizontal when looking around when riding?). There's only so much you can do.
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Re: 6d helmets.

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Leatts may save necks, but you have a huge risk at head injuries wearing one
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Re: 6d helmets.

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My brother still wears his donut that he's had since, I think, 2002.. Lolol
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Re: 6d helmets.

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I said it earlier and I'll say it again. It's protective equipment, there is a reason all these company's state that they aren't fully 100% guaranteeing that you will not get hurt, whether it be in the area of the product is supposed to protect or somewhere else in result of that product. It's all uncontrollable variables, if your going to get hurt it's going happen no matter what, and unfortunately if your time is up it's up. You have a risk everyday driving a vehicle, walking up and down stairs, heck walking down the street. You can't live in a bubble, when you are racing you have to understand the consequences that can happen, but if wearing protective equipment makes you more comfortable then wear it. Likewise if you don't want to wear it, It's all personal preference.
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Re: 6d helmets.

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Nice post, my english isn't good enough to reply some of you guys but I'll try it.

In my modest opinion the leatt/neck brace does not avoid neck injuries, it helps to avoid them but not 100% assured. I mean, many riders have dead because of broken neck, and this protection avoid most of inmediate death when you hit the floor. But the neck brace can't protect the backbone. It's difficult to me express what I tough but I'll try to put an example:

Ryan Villopoto suffered a torn ACL last year despite having one of the best knee protection ever. The knee protection is more developed than neck protection, but they can't assure you that if you touch the ground with a bad body position, you will be fine after that. They help us to avoid the small shock but when you crash hard, you will be injuried or not, wearing those protections or not.

In my opinion, after using both items, I would pay for another good knee protection but the neck protection I think it's too expensive against its efficiency.

Sorry if I dont explain my opinion properly :oops: :oops:

Keep the post alive, it's very interesting :D
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Re: 6d helmets.

Post by Prada »

It's really just a work in progress. To me, I think the way these braces were advertised and deceived by the consumer is why we are having this debate. Throughout the years we will see this piece of work evolve and become better. But, for now I think it is just too new to believe that it is as great as it seems or has been hyped up to be.

Don't think I am trying to start an argument because that is not what I intend to do. But, here is my personal opinion and my situation as to why I would NOT use one. I simply do not think it is worth it for me to spend money on something that is hardly proven, given how slow I go when I ride and not to mention I barely ride. That is just MY situation, of course there are others. But, I feel as if the top pro's who are not wearing them aren't just wearing them because they aren't getting paid enough. You think they are THAT greedy? There's a point where it comes to the FACTS and I'm sure if you dig deep enough and actually talk to the pro's 1 on 1, they would tell you the real deal.

Let me say again I don't want to argue, because I am glad neck braces are around. It doesn't matter whether I believe in them now, but I believe there is opportunity to innovate and really provide protection that does amazing things. Until then, I'll save my dollar because I buy things that I truly believe in.
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Re: 6d helmets.

Post by KaseoDip »

I have landed on my head so many times that I am thankful I wear a neckbrace. I will admit though. Riding without wearing a neckbrace feels a whole lot better, but I'm more of a "safety first" kind of guy.
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