Phathry25 wrote:I said simply I don't make decisions based on what a pro rider does or says. If I were implying anything it's that you seem to be hanging off of their every word.
Also. Thanks for the elementary explanation of the safety gear. I'm new to motocross you know.
Not really. Whether you imply it or not, I make decisions for myself and do whats best for me (no fucking way dude). I like to take suggestions and criticism into account from mentors and important people. Its like you're trying to be a rebel, or just a hipster.
lol don't bitch, you asked. Act like a child then get treated like one haha
Phathry25 wrote:Don't try to apply logic to anything mini says. That's where you went wrong.
Olay. Tell me another conspiracy theory about how multiple companies are selling millions of safety devices that actually make riding motocross more dangerous.
Back in 2011, when I was training in Georgia at MTF, Tim Ferry stopped by with Ohlins Suspension to do some testing. Juanita Wilson (Dean's mom), was also looking to do business with Ohlins. Bob Barcia, (Justins's dad) also happened to be there the day of. We were all bullshitting for a couple of hours (mostly me just listening) and we came across the Zach Bell incident. For those that don't know the short version, Zach took a spill at Austin and suffered a minor concussion. Langston asked about what helmet he was wearing and if he was wearing a neck brace. Juanita and Bob are the two most serious people I've met when it comes to safety in motocross equipment.
Wilson and Barcia talked about the 'gear company helmet' approach first. Gear companies that make helmets are just looking for ways to grab money from a customer, so they use the least amount of money possible and use cheap resources produce helmets. While helmets that come from helmet companies are only focused on helmets, safety is taken much more seriously and the quality is slightly higher. Lesson: only buy a helmet from a helmet company, the same can also be applied for boots. There are a couple of gear company helmets that wouldn't be too bad such as TLDs, Thors and maybe a Fox. But if you want to be sure, stick to a helmet company.
Ferry eventually got into 6D helmets. When 6D Helmets first came out, he said he was very much into the idea and he was looking to sell them at his dealership. He wanted to see how good the tech in a 6D was, so he asked the company for the test stats. 6D refused to give him any sort of stats, which caught him off guard. With Langston having the relationship that he does with Arai he was able to get the stats of not only the 6D, but the Arai helmet as well. The final test results (done by Arai) showed that the 6D had only a 1% chance of being effective in preventing a head injury or any sort of protection, while the Arai helmet showed a 1.5% chance of being effective. He mentioned that 6Ds, if anything, might encourage a head injury (not entirely proven). Hearing it firsthand, everyone in the room was in disbelief. Juanita was sold right away and took his helmet off the next day. I was in disbelief. Ferry lastly mentioned that the idea of the 6D was great, but the design is highly flawed and its just a marketing game to grab peoples money.
I wore 6Ds at the time and I couldn't get over the concept of not wearing it. I eventually gave in a couple of years later and accepted it. Through the many people I've worked with, I learned that if that 1% or 1.5% means something for you, then take it. But keep in mind that means more risk for your neck and other upper body injuries. I also got a tip from my old mechanic that you would be better off doing lumosity exercises and keeping it in better shape if you want to prevent injury (just a tip, not proven). While anybody can call horseshit on me, the proof is out there. Many top riders have stopped wearing their helmet because they found out they don't actually work. Most of the top riders that still wear them only wear them because they're getting giant paychecks (Villopoto, Weimer, etc).
I feel I'm going to get a lot of shit for this haha.
I don't believe any hearsay from anybody, not even a highly reputable rider!
I only care to listen to a doctor, or somebody with a brain in their head! They can't tell me any hearsay!
I believe whatever the public puts outs! I mean, information to the public can't be wrong!
I think riders are only smart enough to twist a throttle and put tweets on twitter, what do they know!?
Its not like riders are smart enough to know anything else! They're uneducated morons!
I'm going to be a total douchebag and argue for pages in this thread, but I don't even wear a neckbrace!
I didn't hear everything first hand, so I don't care about it!
My argument gets crushed every time I post in this thread, why am I still talking?!
MiNi is almost as big of a jackass as me! I hate everybody but my friends!
Being an edgy little bitch level: Maxed out.
Phathry25 wrote:Don't try to apply logic to anything mini says. That's where you went wrong.
Non-hearsay: Believe it or not, neck braces haven't actually been proven anywhere.
Non-hearsay: The public assumed that they work, because it hasn't been done before.
Non-hearsay: Pictures don't prove the leatt works.
Non-hearsay: Many riders are taking theirs off all of a sudden. Not a few, many.
Hearsay: Hearing the Langston story, it makes sense.
lol I used to think you were going super tryhard at playing devil's advocate, but I think you're just doing this to be a jackass.
Phathry25 wrote:Don't try to apply logic to anything mini says. That's where you went wrong.
