2014 rF MotoOption Supercross presented by Fly Racing

[m121c]

Although our /readsetup does change your suspension and everything which they can't do irl. So I guess it's a lot different. Ignore my last post.

[Yamahaulin]

gotta love when your going pinned through the whoops and your game tabs out. went flying over the turn and smacked right into the stadium, it was a good 20 second crash hahah

[JVanderlee225]

Anyone have the 450 main?

[Robert196]

Anyone have the 450 main?

http://www.mediafire.com/download/y6bzk ... 50main.rar

[JVanderlee225]

Thanks

[Mikey]

I don't get why people are making such a big deal out of skyzen's techniques. Yes, they're very gamey, but not unfair. Just because he thought of it first and didn't share doesn't make it cheating.

It's been done before.

I want to know why people are so sure that he hits a hotkey. It's fairly obvious when you watch him for a lap that his suspension is always the same.

He doesn't use a hotkey, that's exactly how we know he's cheating...

[AWood]

I don't get why people are making such a big deal out of skyzen's techniques. Yes, they're very gamey, but not unfair. Just because he thought of it first and didn't share doesn't make it cheating.

It's been done before.

I want to know why people are so sure that he hits a hotkey. It's fairly obvious when you watch him for a lap that his suspension is always the same.

He doesn't use a hotkey, that's exactly how we know he's cheating...

So you're gonna ban holding your brakes on the start?

I understand, if everyone can do it, and it's not a major exploit. Why make the 1 person doing it not allowed. Instead of just having others do it too if they want good starts. He may have just revolutionized sim starts.

[Robert196]

Since everyone can back up on the start does that mean I can do it in RF? No.

[JVanderlee225]

Go back and watch the 450 main again...you can clearly see him reading a setup over the first triple. He boner airs it so he doesn't endo, doesn't touch the throttle, gears, or move his handlebars at all in mid air, which is a clear sign he went to change setups. Whether he has chat mapped to his controller and then has to quickly hit enter + esc, I don't know, but that's why he blew the starts the first two weeks, there was no triple right away so it was a little more sketchy.

What happens if he gets a 2nd or 3rd place start, reads it over a triple and crashes two other guys because he tried to read a setup mid air. I don't see how that can be allowed.

Although its not hard to see what he does. Gearing -2 2 or something, Shock Spring rate and Preload at 0 so his suspension looks like a chopper. Holds the back brake and holds the throttle until his bike doesn't go forward, shifts up to 3rd to compress it even more and starts in 2nd. Somewhere along those lines, but it would be interesting to see what else he does I'm probably missing something.

[Sweendoggy]

Great, another thing everyone expects rF to control and monitor...not gonna happen, you know how shit that would be to police each week? Sure you guys all hate leclair and stay up late at night thinking of ways to ban your enemies....I can look in chat logs to see if he is loading set ups...however I don't care and have no plans to try and control that, I'll leave this one to JLV to control in game, and it's legal until he does. Personally it doesn't bother me...really looks like it's been working well for leclair too huh?

[Cody Darr]

I don't like what he is doing nor do I want him to keep doing it. But in real life there at least on the new Kawi's there is a launch controls on the bars to change from a hole shot setting to an all around power setting. I'm not sure if the actually use those controls but I know they are starting to put them on bikes now. Here is a quote from Kawi.

Launch Control Mode helps provide serious traction and acceleration when you need it most: off the line. To nail the holeshot, it re-maps the engine for optimal acceleration and helps prevent wheelspin especially on hard surfaces. As you shift into 3rd gear, Launch Control Mode automatically deactivates.

[Sweendoggy]

Since everyone can back up on the start does that mean I can do it in RF? No.

Everyone backed up on the start?

[nioubie]

Go back and watch the 450 main again...you can clearly see him reading a setup over the first triple. He boner airs it so he doesn't endo, doesn't touch the throttle, gears, or move his handlebars at all in mid air, which is a clear sign he went to change setups. Whether he has chat mapped to his controller and then has to quickly hit enter + esc, I don't know, but that's why he blew the starts the first two weeks, there was no triple right away so it was a little more sketchy.

What happens if he gets a 2nd or 3rd place start, reads it over a triple and crashes two other guys because he tried to read a setup mid air. I don't see how that can be allowed.

Although its not hard to see what he does. Gearing -2 2 or something, Shock Spring rate and Preload at 0 so his suspension looks like a chopper. Holds the back brake and holds the throttle until his bike doesn't go forward, shifts up to 3rd to compress it even more and starts in 2nd. Somewhere along those lines, but it would be interesting to see what else he does I'm probably missing something.

Pretty sick good analyze ! from what i know, i think your 99% right.


for the part it should ba allowed or not, well even thought i don't like that, and think start should be based on reflex/gearing management, can't really be forbidden.

[tyskorn]

I don't like what he is doing nor do I want him to keep doing it. But in real life there at least on the new Kawi's there is a launch controls on the bars to change from a hole shot setting to an all around power setting. I'm not sure if the actually use those controls but I know they are starting to put them on bikes now. Here is a quote from Kawi.

Launch Control Mode helps provide serious traction and acceleration when you need it most: off the line. To nail the holeshot, it re-maps the engine for optimal acceleration and helps prevent wheelspin especially on hard surfaces. As you shift into 3rd gear, Launch Control Mode automatically deactivates.

Jimmy Stewart has a similar control that he can use to switch between mappings. I can't remember what settings they had on it when I was reading about it, but it's pretty cool.

[JVanderlee225]

Pretty sick good analyze ! from what i know, i think your 99% right.

haha I hope so.

I don't think it is cheating or unfair by any means, it's within the rules, and I don't expect rF to do anything about it, but I think in the future it would be cool for jlv to setup something where everyone has a fair start and it is based on your reaction time and shifting instead of setups. Until then I will be trying to figure something out.

Who knows maybe Leclair will be nice and tell everyone not named Byron Downen.