2015 MotoOption Supercross presented by Fly Racing

[Craig]

So im guessing im not aloud to drop down to 250 Wheels,Sween,Barrington?
Quick question if top 10 from 450 arnt aloud to drop down why is the 250 west guys able to race 450? That doesnt happen in real life?
Id rather not have Dennis Cromie Burkeen and Dade come into 450 and get top 10 taking points away from myself and the other 450 guys ............

Stop including me in this. I just make tracks.

Well idk i feel like you could of atleast giving me an answer since i know you saw my pm thats is all

[Mikey]

Come on now Borrington, you've got some pull.

[checkerz]

I do believe it would have been a good thing to enforce "no top 10 from 450 points last year" are allowed to drop to the 250 class this season. Hindsight is 20/20.

I also believe it could've been something announced a bit "larger" vs. tucked into the rulebook to allow riders to skip a few races if needed in the 450 class to keep their East eligibility (though I'd still call them losers for doing that even, but I don't make or enforce the rules for this series so not like me thinking they are lame matters)

Finally, I wish people would quit wanting to sandbag the easier classes. You're like the guy who goes around bragging about winning the Beginner class at the local fair race even though you've been racing 3 years. Would you rather get 10th in the A Class or win the C class?

Why not race with the best guys? All that you sandbagging does is keep guys who are ALMOST as good as you from having a shot at ever winning anything and guys below them from a chance at a top 10, and guys below them at a chance at qualifying for a main.

Not sure why I am trying to talk common sense into a group who is obviously extremely self centered and can't see around their ego that is built up from a bunch of participation trophies from their mammas because they didn't win the local softball tournaments as a kid.

[checkerz]

[Craig]

I do believe it would have been a good thing to enforce "no top 10 from 450 points last year" are allowed to drop to the 250 class this season. Hindsight is 20/20.

I also believe it could've been something announced a bit "larger" vs. tucked into the rulebook to allow riders to skip a few races if needed in the 450 class to keep their East eligibility (though I'd still call them losers for doing that even, but I don't make or enforce the rules for this series so not like me thinking they are lame matters)

Finally, I wish people would quit wanting to sandbag the easier classes. You're like the guy who goes around bragging about winning the Beginner class at the local fair race even though you've been racing 3 years. Would you rather get 10th in the A Class or win the C class?

Why not race with the best guys? All that you sandbagging does is keep guys who are ALMOST as good as you from having a shot at ever winning anything and guys below them from a chance at a top 10, and guys below them at a chance at qualifying for a main.

Not sure why I am trying to talk common sense into a group who is obviously extremely self centered and can't see around their ego that is built up from a bunch of participation trophies from their mammas because they didn't win the local softball tournaments as a kid.

I 110% agree with you but i got told the "top 10 in 450 points rule" has been there since 2012 but that didnt stop Robert and Jeremy doing it or Dennis who got 2nd in 450 SX last year. So how should i not be allowed to drop down seems like come bs to me also why are West guys allowed to ride 450 pretty fucking dumb once again.

[checkerz]

I 110% agree with you but i got told the "top 10 in 450 points rule" has been there since 2012 but that didnt stop Robert and Jeremy doing it or Dennis who got 2nd in 450 SX last year. So how should i not be allowed to drop down seems like come bs to me also why are West guys allowed to ride 450 pretty fucking dumb once again.

So in the best real world example I can come up with, you are saying...

Doping has been against the rules since the start of the sport, but you didn't start testing people until now. Ron Lechien won more races high and still drunk than I've lined up for and when JLaw lines up again he'll be high too, so why shouldn't I be allowed to shoot up as much shit as I want.

[wheels1758]

I do believe it would have been a good thing to enforce "no top 10 from 450 points last year" are allowed to drop to the 250 class this season. Hindsight is 20/20.

I also believe it could've been something announced a bit "larger" vs. tucked into the rulebook to allow riders to skip a few races if needed in the 450 class to keep their East eligibility (though I'd still call them losers for doing that even, but I don't make or enforce the rules for this series so not like me thinking they are lame matters)

Finally, I wish people would quit wanting to sandbag the easier classes. You're like the guy who goes around bragging about winning the Beginner class at the local fair race even though you've been racing 3 years. Would you rather get 10th in the A Class or win the C class?

Why not race with the best guys? All that you sandbagging does is keep guys who are ALMOST as good as you from having a shot at ever winning anything and guys below them from a chance at a top 10, and guys below them at a chance at qualifying for a main.

Not sure why I am trying to talk common sense into a group who is obviously extremely self centered and can't see around their ego that is built up from a bunch of participation trophies from their mammas because they didn't win the local softball tournaments as a kid.

I 110% agree with you but i got told the "top 10 in 450 points rule" has been there since 2012 but that didnt stop Robert and Jeremy doing it or Dennis who got 2nd in 450 SX last year. So how should i not be allowed to drop down seems like come bs to me also why are West guys allowed to ride 450 pretty fucking dumb once again.

Craig, I'm sorry that RF is so dumb. We took a vote, and we're not allowing top 10 in 450 to drop down. We will try to do a better job in the future of enforcing, but it has to start somewhere. I hope you find a series promoter that isn't so dumb so you can sandbag their series.

[Craig]

Im not saying you are dumb im saying some of your rules are
Well i hope 250 west arnt allowed to race 450
You have bigger sand baggers in 250 east then me just FYI

[wheels1758]

Why would 250 West not be allowed to race 450? Theoretically, they will not be able to be top 10 since they have a 6 race late start...

[Craig]

Theoretically they can, dennis have won 450 sx races before whats stopping him now?

[JVanderlee225]

I find it funny there are more national numbers in the top 40 of 250 east than the top 40 of 450 as of right now

[Craig]

I find it funny there are more national numbers in the top 40 of 250 east than the top 40 of 450 as of right now

but 450 is the "premier class"

[ShackAttack12]

I find it funny there are more national numbers in the top 40 of 250 east than the top 40 of 450 as of right now

I'm Tedesco'ing it because i'm an OG and much slower now. Plus, i'd rather be done earlier.

[checkerz]

I find it funny there are more national numbers in the top 40 of 250 east than the top 40 of 450 as of right now

I'm Tedesco'ing it because i'm an OG and much slower now. Plus, i'd rather be done earlier.

I actually have zero issue with this because it's pretty obvious you aren't putting in the time/effort to have the speed to compete at the front of the 450 class. Others, that isn't the case.

Eh, fuck it, with that being said, maybe it doesn't matter because everyone just needs to put in the time and effort or shut up. I hope Kellen is steaming tonight, I'll have fun commentating vs. squeeking into the 450 class and getting in the way all night.

[ShackAttack12]

I actually have zero issue with this because it's pretty obvious you aren't putting in the time/effort to have the speed to compete at the front of the 450 class. Others, that isn't the case.

Eh, fuck it, with that being said, maybe it doesn't matter because everyone just needs to put in the time and effort or shut up. I hope Kellen is steaming tonight, I'll have fun commentating vs. squeeking into the 450 class and getting in the way all night.

Make sure you mention that I'm an old far and lost my touch and have decided to go back to my roots.