new bike models...

[barrington314]

i think you need to re evaluate your rates as well. ive searched. and find people that do plenty of quality cheap work. ive kind of lost respect for you attacker, raging at me for having a different opinion than you. this thread wasnt created to "tell you what to do" with your models. i have intentions of having some make me a model, in which i intend to share with anyone. but i dont want to "waste it" if someone else is planning to release their stuff soon. and by soon, i mean in time for teams to get set before sx. and about the kawi being over due... it was in general, not andys alone.

[attacker5]

That wasnt directed at you, take a look at what I wrote to you, and what was directed to DDavis. Im pissed because this "expectation" concept keeps coming up, its not intended to be directly towards you, unfortunately you were on the receiving end this time, hopefully you understand. Also, JVDL does freelance, if you talk to him you will see, im not that far off.

[barrington314]

That wasnt directed at you, take a look at what I wrote to you, and what was directed to DDavis. Im pissed because this "expectation" concept keeps coming up, its not intended to be directly towards you, unfortunately you were on the receiving end this time, hopefully you understand. Also, JVDL does freelance, if you talk to him you will see, im not that far off.

well i think you are confussing the "expectation" with "my opinion" or "what i would do". ive even stated that i might think differently about it if it was me putting in the time on the models, but from the outside looking in, id want as many people as possible using my stuff. and again, ive also supported the idea of buying the models and templates.

[attacker5]

I thank you for supporting me with the buying thing, but im sure you can see what im saying, take a look at the ktm... Im slightly cooled down now, sorry for raging hard earlier, but I was proper pissed.

[Ddavis]

Offering you money to use your model and you don't even have a legit reason except "No".. I don't get it. Is it a personal problem you have against me or are you super-private about keeping the fun to yourself and a select few.

[barrington314]

im not mad what so ever that you creators want to keep things for yourselves or for specific teams. i can have an understanding mind to that. but you guys should try and have an understanding mind towards those that are always left out. it would be nice to know what it takes to have an exclusive model for a team. as it is now, it feels like its a friends only kind of thing. which again, is fine, its your stuff. but i mean, for the sake of making the game grow, atleast let people know whats going on, so people can line up riders and sponsors. this isnt aimed at you, because i didnt ask you for ur model, but i did ask for a new model of someone, and i just kinda got left out to dry. when trying to put a legit team together, with legit sponsors, its kind of important to know.

[Ddavis]

I have PanicRev and O'Neal both sponsoring my team. Hence, I'd like a new bike model, but yet again like Barrington said, it's your model, you ultimately decide who uses what.

[attacker5]

im not mad what so ever that you creators want to keep things for yourselves or for specific teams. i can have an understanding mind to that. but you guys should try and have an understanding mind towards those that are always left out. it would be nice to know what it takes to have an exclusive model for a team. as it is now, it feels like its a friends only kind of thing. which again, is fine, its your stuff. but i mean, for the sake of making the game grow, atleast let people know whats going on, so people can line up riders and sponsors. this isnt aimed at you, because i didnt ask you for ur model, but i did ask for a new model of someone, and i just kinda got left out to dry. when trying to put a legit team together, with legit sponsors, its kind of important to know.

That is a fair point, me and Joe are actually working towards setting up a Newbie User Guide, that will explain everything, as well as how sponsors work and how teams can allocate models. I see your point and hope to answer it soon, properly. The problem is barrington, you get tonnes of noobs who say exactly what you said "why isnt the template released? why isnt the model released?" and its a matter of picking out who is actually just gooning about or who is asking it in a serious manner, which you were, but that's where the issue lies when I first read someone's post.

Ddavis the reason isn't just NO, its that the deals with the other teams will not allow another team.

[NAUpoiss75]

Everything what TCMX has is in beta stages,all of those things what we use will be released to public.I remember andy talking about releasing the kawasaki in 3 weeks.So it should be done soon.Also that 2013 wont be released till next national series i guess.So talking about keeping the model for only us is wrong,everything will be released but we are not sure when.

Grizz helped andy so why shouldnt he got a change to get a beta or skin hes team bike.

[Ohagan75]

I can see where both sides are coming from.
Devin i know you want ramon's model for your team but he said straight up when he was modeling it that it was for a certain teams use till a later date. You can't change his mind or the deal he made with said team by saying you have legit sponsors and that you want a new model for next year. Thats not how it works.

I also spoke to andy and as aaron said it will be released shortly just not a template

[barrington314]

Everything what TCMX has is in beta stages,all of those things what we use will be released to public.I remember andy talking about releasing the kawasaki in 3 weeks.So it should be done soon.Also that 2013 wont be released till next national series i guess.So talking about keeping the model for only us is wrong,everything will be released but we are not sure when.

Grizz helped andy so why shouldnt he got a change to get a beta or skin hes team bike.

thats all fine. and excepted. and again, about grizz, i dont care. i never said he shouldnt have it.

"everything will be released"
even a template for anyone to use?

"...not sure when"
well again, try and look at it from someone like myselfs point of view. its frustrating trying to put a team together, when i dont know if or when anything will be available to me. i mean, i could use the same old honda that everyone else is going to be using i guess. dont get me wrong, its an exceptionally good model and template.
but andys is also an amazing model, along with alot of really good skin work. and its something new. so obviously id like to work with it. but im left in the dark... have no clue if ill be able to or not.

[barrington314]

Devin i know you want ramon's model for your team but he said straight up when he was modeling it that it was for a certain teams use till a later date. You can't change his mind or the deal he made with said team by saying you have legit sponsors and that you want a new model for next year. Thats not how it works.

honestly, if i wanted to work with suzukis, attackers older model isnt bad at all and could get the job done just fine.

I also spoke to andy and as aaron said it will be released shortly just not a template

thank you, thats what i was looking for all along. lol.

[Prada]

i think you need to re evaluate your rates as well. ive searched. and find people that do plenty of quality cheap work. ive kind of lost respect for you attacker, raging at me for having a different opinion than you. this thread wasnt created to "tell you what to do" with your models. i have intentions of having some make me a model, in which i intend to share with anyone. but i dont want to "waste it" if someone else is planning to release their stuff soon. and by soon, i mean in time for teams to get set before sx. and about the kawi being over due... it was in general, not andys alone.

What were the intentions of making this thread then? You have complained the whole time and just expect the modelers to sit back and let you talk shit about how they aren't being fair?

Way to make assumptions as well..when did I ever mention grizz? Since he isn't the only one skimming makes you look stupid. I was speaking in general. Also, getting on a well put together team isn't that hard, you're just not wanted because you bitch about everything, don't contribute and can't speak without blatantly trying to offend someone on the forums

[Prada]

Grizz is also trying to be a trusted partner when it comes to that work. I mean cmon he won't even let ME have the beta. What a guy

[DJD]

God damn barrington guy, could you at least try to use proper grammar when composing an argument? People might take you seriously.