2017 EMF World MXSGP series

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Re: 2017 EMF World MXSGP series - Official thread

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How come some of the Ams are way faster than the Pro's? Are they not allowed in pro class?
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Maybe, Justin Wood go in Pro? 1,43,1 it's fast for pro. He ride in am.
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Theses guys have the possibility to choose Pro or Amateur.
When i started MXS, we were really happy and proud to become Pro, even if we didn't have the speed/consistency to fight in front, we were still happy and ready to tryhard to become better/faster.
Now, since 2 years, i noticed a lot of guys prefer sandbagg the Amateur class ...
People change, world is evolving, maybe not in the best way ...
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M@xTizZz wrote:Theses guys have the possibility to choose Pro or Amateur.
When i started MXS, we were really happy and proud to become Pro, even if we didn't have the speed/consistency to fight in front, we were still happy and ready to tryhard to become better/faster.
Now, since 2 years, i noticed a lot of guys prefer sandbagg the Amateur class ...
People change, world is evolving, maybe not in the best way ...
I know what you mean. Even if you weren't as fast as the others you were still proud to enter the Pro class. These days people just want to win so they sandbag!
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M@xTizZz wrote:Theses guys have the possibility to choose Pro or Amateur.
When i started MXS, we were really happy and proud to become Pro, even if we didn't have the speed/consistency to fight in front, we were still happy and ready to tryhard to become better/faster.
Now, since 2 years, i noticed a lot of guys prefer sandbagg the Amateur class ...
People change, world is evolving, maybe not in the best way ...
Wait, you are an EMF Admin and you are saying that if they aren't in PRO its because they don't want to?
As an Admin, you should move up the people if they have enough level to be in PRO. Just to make EMF better.
At the start of the SX Seasson, you made a post saying that you won't move up riders because the first round was already done. You know what's happening now? SX races are chaotic and not even fun because the difference between top 3 riders and the rest is super big and they start lapping in the 2nd lap. This is ruining the races. Then, the funny thing is that the leaders bitch about the lappers because they don't move up when the blue flag is out. Do you really want lappers to move in the 2nd lap? They won't. Dear Leader, it's your problem if you are racing in a Category where you don't belong to.

Now, MXSGP season has not started yet so as an admin you are, if you see someone being able to be in Pro, you should move him up.
I'm not saying how you should do your work, but this is just a suggestion to make EMF better and profesional. RF does really well in this part.

Don't take this as an agry note. I'm not ungry by any means but I'm dissapointed to see how some things are being done when we pay 30€ to race in your site. Which I love to race in EMF, but things could go better.
So yeah, take this as a suggestion, if you keep the top 3 in SX in the AMs for the MXSGP seasson, they are going to start lapping in the 2nd lap. And at least from my point of view, that's something no ones wanna really see.
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VUSTTOS wrote:
M@xTizZz wrote:Theses guys have the possibility to choose Pro or Amateur.
When i started MXS, we were really happy and proud to become Pro, even if we didn't have the speed/consistency to fight in front, we were still happy and ready to tryhard to become better/faster.
Now, since 2 years, i noticed a lot of guys prefer sandbagg the Amateur class ...
People change, world is evolving, maybe not in the best way ...
Wait, you are an EMF Admin and you are saying that if they aren't in PRO its because they don't want to?
As an Admin, you should move up the people if they have enough level to be in PRO. Just to make EMF better.
At the start of the SX Seasson, you made a post saying that you won't move up riders because the first round was already done. You know what's happening now? SX races are chaotic and not even fun because the difference between top 3 riders and the rest is super big and they start lapping in the 2nd lap. This is ruining the races. Then, the funny thing is that the leaders bitch about the lappers because they don't move up when the blue flag is out. Do you really want lappers to move in the 2nd lap? They won't. Dear Leader, it's your problem if you are racing in a Category where you don't belong to.

Now, MXSGP season has not started yet so as an admin you are, if you see someone being able to be in Pro, you should move him up.
I'm not saying how you should do your work, but this is just a suggestion to make EMF better and profesional. RF does really well in this part.

Don't take this as an agry note. I'm not ungry by any means but I'm dissapointed to see how some things are being done when we pay 30€ to race in your site. Which I love to race in EMF, but things could go better.
So yeah, take this as a suggestion, if you keep the top 3 in SX in the AMs for the MXSGP seasson, they are going to start lapping in the 2nd lap. And at least from my point of view, that's something no ones wanna really see.
if they finish in the top 5-10 they get moved up for next year anyway. somebody is always going to be the fastest. one lap dosent mean much to a 25-30 minute race. they might feel they are not ready to race pro or might not even being able to show up on Wednesdays
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M@xTizZz wrote:Theses guys have the possibility to choose Pro or Amateur.
When i started MXS, we were really happy and proud to become Pro, even if we didn't have the speed/consistency to fight in front, we were still happy and ready to tryhard to become better/faster.
Now, since 2 years, i noticed a lot of guys prefer sandbagg the Amateur class ...
People change, world is evolving, maybe not in the best way ...
I am of the same opinion as you. When I asked to transfer me to a pro. I knew I was much slower than the leaders. With the transition to the pro, my level up. I was proud that he was in a pro. I was the first Russian who has received this license. You do not have to ask if the guy wants to join a pro. His time is the top 10 pro guys. When I can not get even in the top 20. People lose interest in the race, because they know that will enter the race and did not finish in the top 5, because the guys do not go about slower. In 2016, on SX it was a big fight. Anyone could win the race. The first top 10 people were traveling the same and it was interesting to go again and again. I believe that you need to force guys to translate. Approximate amateurs 1,46-47. All the guys that will just slide into a pro. they all want to win, but do not forget about the other, slower guys. Then you pick up more fans and there will be more people in the pro class.You have time until Wednesday, that would translate to come up with the guys or something.
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VUSTTOS wrote:
M@xTizZz wrote:Theses guys have the possibility to choose Pro or Amateur.
When i started MXS, we were really happy and proud to become Pro, even if we didn't have the speed/consistency to fight in front, we were still happy and ready to tryhard to become better/faster.
Now, since 2 years, i noticed a lot of guys prefer sandbagg the Amateur class ...
People change, world is evolving, maybe not in the best way ...
Wait, you are an EMF Admin and you are saying that if they aren't in PRO its because they don't want to?
As an Admin, you should move up the people if they have enough level to be in PRO. Just to make EMF better.
At the start of the SX Seasson, you made a post saying that you won't move up riders because the first round was already done. You know what's happening now? SX races are chaotic and not even fun because the difference between top 3 riders and the rest is super big and they start lapping in the 2nd lap. This is ruining the races. Then, the funny thing is that the leaders bitch about the lappers because they don't move up when the blue flag is out. Do you really want lappers to move in the 2nd lap? They won't. Dear Leader, it's your problem if you are racing in a Category where you don't belong to.

Now, MXSGP season has not started yet so as an admin you are, if you see someone being able to be in Pro, you should move him up.
I'm not saying how you should do your work, but this is just a suggestion to make EMF better and profesional. RF does really well in this part.

Don't take this as an agry note. I'm not ungry by any means but I'm dissapointed to see how some things are being done when we pay 30€ to race in your site. Which I love to race in EMF, but things could go better.
So yeah, take this as a suggestion, if you keep the top 3 in SX in the AMs for the MXSGP seasson, they are going to start lapping in the 2nd lap. And at least from my point of view, that's something no ones wanna really see.

hmmm, well you are used to complain about others guys laptimes so i will again reply to you as an Admin, admin, admin :)


1st of all, i really would like to know how you could say "RF does really well in this part." when you didn't even have an account on their website :roll:

2nd, i wanna re-mention to you your last complain, i remember it was about Sasha Jung in the OpenC class, 3 weeks later he won only one main event, he's not dominating at all his opponent, he's fighting with guys in the same laptime than him aswell as guys with slower laptimes.

3rd, rF never forced someone to be in Pro for their 1st year of racing, you can ask Hunter Root when he won everything in Amateur he just did his 1st year of racing in amateur class as everyone else. When it happens they give him the "A" licence but not directly from the C to the Pro it is impossible.

4th, you are always judging the laptimes and not the races, try to check the race of the guys you are complaining about would be a good start.

5th, if you really want to compare EMF / rF (start to try to race on both for sure) but also take a look at the overall level of players in each class (watching laptimes will not be enough for that, you'll have to watch their races), you'll understand directly what the problem is on EMF, and it's not due to EMF but to the overall level of the european players.

6th, just like Matt said, all the top guys will be moved up and forced to be pro next year as his brother was this year.

AND 7th, i prefer talk to the fast amateur and make them move up by themselve instead of forcing them because they can run one fast lap on 4hours of qualifying sessions.


I just checked one round of this year sx rF/EMF so you can have something real to compare. I have to say it's the 1st round i checked, i didn't chose it, just checked San Diego. You have to know they are hosting East coast / West coast so not all the amateur players are in there. This is explaining the bigger difference between 1st and last on rF but overall it's pretty close, i'm not really according a big importance in this because laptimes don't mean anything.

rF :
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On rF amateur sx they are not lapping in lap2 because all players are able to ride around the same laptime than their qualifying laptimes, on EMF it's a miracle if they have less than 3s between, it's more often 5s, this is the real problem.

Licences system will never be perfect, and it will take time to regulate everything, it took a lot of time to rF to have all classes they have now, you're pretty new on this game so you don't really know that.

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noticed a couple of aussies are signed up for this. is it allowed?
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Mcguire103 wrote:noticed a couple of aussies are signed up for this. is it allowed?
Why wouldn't it be? ;)
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Sorry I did one decent lap time. But when it comes to racing look how bad I do. Last round of sx I come 18th and one of them guys getting lapped on the 2nd lap. Rasmus blazer another example always fastest and qualifying and has only just won his first round. Next think I'll get is somone saying did I even run that lap haha
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Justin Bubba Wood wrote:Blah blah blah. Next think I'll get is somone saying did I even run that lap haha
Which you didn't because i ran your lap
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Justin Bubba Wood wrote:Sorry I did one decent lap time. But when it comes to racing look how bad I do. Last round of sx I come 18th and one of them guys getting lapped on the 2nd lap. Rasmus blazer another example always fastest and qualifying and has only just won his first round. Next think I'll get is somone saying did I even run that lap haha
Just go pro you bitch.
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Open C have only got 9 riders so far. Also, it looks like the am classes aren't gonna have to many riders when it comes to race day. Maybe move the C riders up to the am classes which will make the night go quicker and the am class racing much better to watch and stream because there will be more action going on. Finally, watching two 10mins + 1lap races containing 9 riders isn't gonna be the most fun to watch. Thanks
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HarryWhite71 wrote:Open C have only got 9 riders so far. Also, it looks like the am classes aren't gonna have to many riders when it comes to race day. Maybe move the C riders up to the am classes which will make the night go quicker and the am class racing much better to watch and stream because there will be more action going on. Finally, watching two 10mins + 1lap races containing 9 riders isn't gonna be the most fun to watch. Thanks
we must wait until Wednesday because, there should be enough rider for every 5 classes.
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