People Should be getting paid for their creations!

[jlv]

So really. How do you justify JLV getting all profits when there are others who work on this game just as hard, maybe even harder, getting nothing, nada, zero?

You greatly understate my efforts. Go write and debug 60,000 lines of very complex code and then come back and tell me I'm not working as hard as others.

[FactoryBR21]

Ha ha ha ha ha , I just got home from a badass trip and i dont have idea whats going on but



ROCK'N ROLL BITCHES

[yomo]

Where is this donations button at the bottom of each page?

[yzmxer608]

I thought you were talking about PureMXS, sorry.

[yomo]

Oh nah thats cool.

I think this is a wake up call to everyone. JLV wrote 60,000 lines for you guys and you cant spare an extra 5 bucks to help his cause? I think the people who dont seriously create tracks, skins, models etc should all help JLV out...

but thats just my ideas

[FactoryBR21]

First of all , since i started on game modding ( 3years ago on MVA) I never expected get any money because we make it for pleasure and fun.
I think would be stupid , if you want get money just dont make... I dont have to much to say but im really going down.... I had high hopes and im losing all them.
Thats it

[yomo]

But your a kid and just do it for entertainment. Some people here actually do this stuff for a living.

Also it would just be the ABSOLUTE top stuff going for 5 dollars. If you dont want it just dont buy it. But is should be an option

[FactoryBR21]

Yeah , actually im a kid but im not talking about JLV but the community creator , if they dont have time to make it just dont make
Actually your looking at wrong side view

[yomo]

Yeah i know who your talking about

well they may have the time... but not the time to give away for free.
All im saying is to make it an option. There will still be plenty of stuff for free

[DJ99X]

Like I mentioned before though. This game wouldn't be anywhere if the community wouldn't have created content for it. Those people that did create content and boosted this game visualy with a full 100% did not even get a thank you at the least from JLV himself.

So really. How do you justify JLV getting all profits when there are others who work on this game just as hard, maybe even harder, getting nothing, nada, zero?

1) JLV's point above
2) You don't think we don't know that? If I had a problem with that, I would have stopped a long time ago.
3) Conversely, our created material wouldn't be anywhere if not for JLV's continual input into the game.
4) As long as JLV is bringing in the profit, this game should continue to develop. If what I do helps that, fantastic!

[Mikey]

DJ Your made that quote your bitch lol

i dont really make anything good lol ahaha that sucks ahaha Its hard enough trying to get people playing this game that dont really have the patiants to learn how to play (My friends who race just can not do it lol) and making people pay for skins if just harder way for people to play this game.

i hope that kinda makes sense lol.

[Garasaki]

I think the craziest thing about this thread is that every single post and poster makes a valid point.

It's a very complicated situation.

At least from my point of view, there is nothing particularly wrong with the current situation (ie nothing needs to be fixed) but I do think that something more could be done to somehow reward or showcase quality content creation.

[MessiaH]

So really. How do you justify JLV getting all profits when there are others who work on this game just as hard, maybe even harder, getting nothing, nada, zero?

You greatly understate my efforts. Go write and debug 60,000 lines of very complex code and then come back and tell me I'm not working as hard as others.

I said "maybe". As in, I'm not sure. I can not look into your skull, or into anyone's skull. Neither do I hold a stopwatch for the hours you clock for MXS, or anyone else clocks for MXS.

I can clearly see that the "maybe even harder" was out of line and I agree with you on this being out of line. You have my apology for this.

However. I do keep to my statement about others possibly investing just as much as many hours in user created content, compared to the hours you spent on the actual game so far.

"The All-Knowing MessiaH"

I feel honoured DJ. Thank you very much.

About your actual comment to mine. Mine is as much of a personal statement about the current statement as yours is a personal one.

We obviously do not agree with one another. I don't treat you in a disrespectful way for not agreeing with me. I would appreciate you'd do the same.

[LuizH]

If you guys see some big comunities such as Rfactor or Gp500 or Pro evolution Soccer or any other game i dont see people selling the creations, and in Rfactor for instance there are hell good mods and its all for free and fun so i just dont see way pay for a edition.
If somebody ask me a model and i want to do i ll do it free, if someone wants to pay me for a model i would think about doing it but i just dont see sense into create something and ask people to pay it to have it

[Turbine951]

However. I do keep to my statement about others possibly investing just as much as many hours in user created content, compared to the hours you spent on the actual game so far.

This is probably one of the most unbelievable statements I have ever read. And from somebody who has game design experience no less?

I am actually blown away by some of the comments in this thread. Never in the history of PC mx games, to my knowledge, has anybody gotten paid for user created content. I've been around since MCM2 days and I have yet to see any evidence of this. So why when MessiaH comes along with this "nothing comes for nothing" campaign does everybody put on their stingy pants? I'm not sure if it's because only one guy created this game or perhaps because JLV paid more attention to the physics part of this game rather than how good it looks. For some reason however this game has been under criticism lately and I'm not sure why. If you don't think this game is good, then why be here?

MessiaH, I just don't really understand how one can come onto a forum, tell the creator that his game "would be nothing", and expect not to hear something in return. As mentioned on MXHQ, you believe "there simply is no decent motocross game around for the PC, and by the looks of it there wont be one anytime soon. And I certainly am not going to sit back and wait an eternity for something to come by. I'll just pull my hands from behind my head, pick my feet off my desk, and work for that what I want; A decent motocross game." So your idea of fixing it, take an old game and make it look better. Why don't you start on your own mx game? After all, it takes more hours to skin and model than it does to create a full fledged game remember? ^^ With as much time as you’ve spent on that Sobe/No Fear Honda you could have put together 2-3 mx games by now.