2013 Lucas Oil Pro Motocross Championship discussion.

[AuTo MaTik]

No one can say he is cheating, no one can say he isn't cheating. There's a little term out there and it is, "Innocent until proven guilty." So until it is confirmed that he is cheating, if he is, he's still the best in the sport and my favorite rider.

[WellsMX524]

If AC is the next great rider, then my name is Neal Wells.

You know what they say about gingers on Kawasaki's...

[KTM57]

Didn't realize AC was a ginger. He's pretty short, though.

[760Liam]

Well, I'm stoked that I didn't spend $800 for trackside camping now that both titles are wrapped up.

[AWood]

Who fucking cares? Honestly. MX isn't a sport where doping would be THAT beneficial. If you listen to the lazergate pulp MX show they talk about it. I believe he's clean. And if he isn't. Than that means others aren't as well. Not a big deal.

[Prada]

Recovery time shortened and being able to go just as fast for the last 10 minutes isn't THAT beneficial? C'mon now

[Prada]

The public most likely won't ever hear the truth, or not any time soon at least.

[MiNi]

What truth? Stfu.

BTW straight from rickycarmichael.com:

Ricky Carmichael

1996 Rookie of the Year
15 Championships (record) 10 MX (record) 5 SX championships
150 career wins (record)
102 MX wins (record) 48 SX wins (2nd all time)
2 Perfect seasons MX (record)
Only rider to go undefeated in the 125 SX series
Never lost a MX championship 1997-2006. Never lost a title defense that he contested.
4x MX des Nations Individual Champion (3x Team Champions)
AMA Rider of the Year 5x (record)

He has all of those records but yet none of you called him a cheater and praised him as the greatest rider to ever live. People are just too butthurt to accept somebody as a champion and label them as a cheater, I guess. It is a shame that the fanbase of the sport has become this pathetic, really.

[AWood]

Pradas got MAFS

[AuTo MaTik]

What truth? Stfu.

BTW straight from rickycarmichael.com:

Ricky Carmichael

1996 Rookie of the Year
15 Championships (record) 10 MX (record) 5 SX championships
150 career wins (record)
102 MX wins (record) 48 SX wins (2nd all time)
2 Perfect seasons MX (record)
Only rider to go undefeated in the 125 SX series
Never lost a MX championship 1997-2006. Never lost a title defense that he contested.
4x MX des Nations Individual Champion (3x Team Champions)
AMA Rider of the Year 5x (record)

He has all of those records but yet none of you called him a cheater and praised him as the greatest rider to ever live. People are just too butthurt to accept somebody as a champion and label them as a cheater, I guess. It is a shame that the fanbase of the sport has become this pathetic, really.

EXACTLY! There's always going to be that one guy that is just one step above the rest. People just hate on Villopoto for no reason.

[KTM57]

I don't "hate on" Villopoto for no reason. He isn't a likable figure (i.e. the persona that has been built around him), I've been told that he's an asshole, I think he dopes, and he beats my favorite riders, so I dislike him. On the other hand, Carmichael is and was a much more likable and friendly figure, rode with style, pointed at the crowd when he whipped was always able to do something more than his competitors (JS7 style), and was a hero figure when I was growing up as he dethroned McGrath, so I have always been and will always be a huge fan.

[MiNi]

I don't "hate on" Villopoto for no reason. He isn't a likable figure (i.e. the persona that has been built around him), I've been told that he's an asshole, I think he dopes, and he beats my favorite riders, so I dislike him. On the other hand, Carmichael is and was a much more likable and friendly figure, rode with style, pointed at the crowd when he whipped was always able to do something more than his competitors (JS7 style), and was a hero figure when I was growing up as he dethroned McGrath, so I have always been and will always be a huge fan.

-There is nothing wrong with personal preference, I can't make you like the guy (the mindless hate statement was NOT directed at you).
-I've been told Carmichael is an asshole.
-If RV dopes, then so do many other riders. To accuse just him but nobody else is just silly.
-I've heard the RV is actually a genuinely nice guy and that people mistake him. Who people are and what goes on camera are two completely different things.
-RV conducts himself with a professional manner and portrays a decent friendly figure image.
-RC was the man to beat when I was growing up and he is still my hero.
-Its something to appreciate to see somebody push the limits of the sport and make history in it, which is what Villopoto is doing.

[KTM57]

-You are a Villopoto fan
-You are a Villopoto fan
-You are a Villopoto fan
-You are a Carmichael fan
-You are a Villopoto fan

[DJ99X]

I don't think doping would make someone faster

[KTM57]

No, definitely not. It wouldn't hurt, though.