To anyone considering DDOS'ing during an rF event...

[Osari52]

I think it's quite a bit funnier actually that several of you non-fully grown adults think that this is all just water under the bridge for the government agencies that get involved here. Laws were passed in these respective countries making these very attacks a federal crime against the judiciary laws in place. It doesn't matter if the offence is denying hundreds or denying millions of people, it... is... a... felony.... period.

I love how this generation immediately following me assumes that there is an easy way around government. I'd be willing to bet you very same people will be the ones behind bars in the future for such crimes like tax evasion or fraud. The government is always watching. The sooner you realize that we live in a big brother world, then the sooner you will be able to accept that your actions can and will always be used against you in a court of law. Hell, even the useless verbiage you guys post here mocking that system is acceptable evidence to a plaintiff's legal team if and when charges are filed against you for any alleged attacks.

I know you guys will read this and be like "hahaha fuckin whatever dude, meh meh meh, look at me I think I know anything about felonies." But you don't. And that fact, coupled with the responses so far in this thread, is making me laugh at the shear ignorance omitted.

[DonnieTheDealer]

Honest to God, if I was in a government position and was given something like this situation, I would ignore it. There are many other larger problems the government needs to be handling. Does that mean I think it's okay? Absolutely not. Its wrong and technically still illegal to boot someone offline, but I don't see anyone caring about a small racing organization for a small video game. It would be nice if someone did care and some things happened, but I just don't see anything happening. I also do appreciate checkerz and everyone involved for trying to take action and for trying to put a stop to it.

[DonnieTheDealer]

Oh and I'm pretty sure any ddos law that was put in place was to protect big companies and organizations from getting hit offline, not necessarily ordinary people.

[Ddavis]

Honest to God, if I was in a government position and was given something like this situation, I would ignore it.

Well thank god you aren't in a government position then.


That's like saying you won't go to jail for murder in a small town because it's a small town. Murder is murder. The same goes for a ddos attack, it doesn't matter if it's a small organization like rF or a multi-billion dollar company like Microsoft, it's the same laws broken.

[Wilson156]

Honest to God, if I was in a government position and was given something like this situation, I would ignore it.

Well thank god you aren't in a government position then.


That's like saying you won't go to jail for murder in a small town because it's a small town. Murder is murder.

You cant really compare murder to a ddos attack honestly. Someones life getting taken is a lot worse than a ddos attack on rf. Just like the punishment is most likely going to be harsher for someone who ddos Microsoft, a multi million dollar company compared to a non profit organization.

I agree who ever was ddosing rf or was planning to in the future should be punished for it but at the same time I'm trying to look at both sides. I agree with what checkers is doing by reporting to the correct authority's about it but only time will tell if any legal action towards the person will actually ever happen.

[Panic_rev151]

That's like saying you won't go to jail for murder in a small town because it's a small town. Murder is murder. The same goes for a ddos attack, it doesn't matter if it's a small organization like rF or a multi-billion dollar company like Microsoft, it's the same laws broken.

Those are two very different situations that do not correlate at all, you can't compare murder to ddosing lmao

[AHeckman2]

The sooner you realize that we live in a big brother world, then the sooner you will be able to accept that your actions can and will always be used against you in a court of law.

I got that reference....just had to read that book in school

[Ddavis]

Well continue to ddos and be an ignorant prick then and see where it takes you in life.

[Jared133mx]

Completely agree with Connor, they aren't going to do much unless it's a huge company affecting tons and tons of people, or if it's actually causing damage, to them it's just some petty shit that they have far more things to worry about than some kids booting an mx simulator server offline.

[USABMXER1]

Honest to God, if I was in a government position and was given something like this situation, I would ignore it.

Well thank god you aren't in a government position then.


That's like saying you won't go to jail for murder in a small town because it's a small town. Murder is murder.

You cant really compare murder to a ddos attack honestly. Someones life getting taken is a lot worse than a ddos attack on rf. Just like the punishment is most likely going to be harsher for someone who ddos Microsoft, a multi million dollar company compared to a non profit organization.

I agree who ever was ddosing rf or was planning to in the future should be punished for it but at the same time I'm trying to look at both sides. I agree with what checkers is doing by reporting to the correct authority's about it but only time will tell if any legal action towards the person will actually ever happen.

Wasn't comparing the 2, he was just using something that more people would end up noticing as an example to show that it has the same values basically.

[Big Smooth one3]

I don't really get the "big government won't care" argument here. It's not like anyone has to go lobby their congressman to bring a bill up on the floor for a vote, this isn't enacting legislation - that part is already done. It's pretty damn simple:

• Is there a law that says someone can't commit some act for fear of criminal punishment?
• Did someone do that unlawful thing?
• Are there explicit directions for reporting this type of criminal act?

I would also like to point out that it isn't the job of law enforcement to make subjective interpretations of importance as it pertains to pursuing a criminal complaint. Their job is equally as simple - if someone committed a crime, get a hold of them and get them into the judicial system, at which time that judgement of guilt/importance of crime can be determined by a judge, which is their job.

What you're hearing from me and (maybe) people who express opinions on this topic similar to mine is really just a frustration that some of you don't get it. It isn't hard, really, to just be reasonable, to not be an asshole. The fact that it has come to this is astonishing to me, that people just can't be decent and enjoy a game, but I guess that's where we are.

[Creiz89]

Wow, you were really lucky that Chex gave you so many chances, and you STILL managed to take it even further.
I hope the moron(s) who did this actually go to jail. It would really make my day, ups, probably make my year.

I would seriously give my left nut to see the face of the little shits who did this, when they finally realize they are going to be busted.

[SKlein]

I would also like to point out that it isn't the job of law enforcement to make subjective interpretations of importance as it pertains to pursuing a criminal complaint. Their job is equally as simple - if someone committed a crime, get a hold of them and get them into the judicial system, at which time that judgement of guilt/importance of crime can be determined by a judge, which is their job.

What you're hearing from me and (maybe) people who express opinions on this topic similar to mine is really just a frustration that some of you don't get it. It isn't hard, really, to just be reasonable, to not be an asshole. The fact that it has come to this is astonishing to me, that people just can't be decent and enjoy a game, but I guess that's where we are.

Not to mention most of the people/groups DDoSing don't start off by going after massive companies. It shouldn't take much thought to realize if you simply let people off the hook because they are going after smaller organizations or individuals it may very well end up in bigger attacks down the road.

[Ddavis]

Wasn't comparing the 2, he was just using something that more people would end up noticing as an example to show that it has the same values basically.

Precisely.

[team canada]

didn't realize sim had so many lawyers