450's

[Prologue]

450´s are heavy so i think that whips will be slower and that will sucks xD

Oh man, I forgot about the weight. That will suck big time. The 250f's already feel like pigs compared to the 125s.

[mace-x]

pigs.... lol
yeah, now the bike movement is not as easy as it should be, mostly because it's constant, you cant apply a higher force to bring the whip back so we have whips for larger jumps but for short jumps the whips sucks xD

[Images381]

I could really only see the 450s helping on a few of the stock tracks like rabbit hill and alcrest, and maybe a few of the competition tracks but all that would happen is the tracks would be made to accomodate the 450 power so JLV could just call the 250s we have now 450s and it would be the same

[ShackAttack12]

I haven't even started on their models yet so it will still be a while.

Why not just use your current 250f models for the 450's and your current 125 models for the 250's??? I can't image you are going to make crazy detailed models anyway because you said you needed to keep them low for those with weak computers.... I also don't think anyone would mind it.

All that would have to change would be the bike weights and the power curves, everything else could be left. You mentioned that sounds are produced automatically based on the size of the motor, so that shouldn't be much of a problem?

[Jake_413]

I haven't even started on their models yet so it will still be a while.

Why not just use your current 250f models for the 450's and your current 125 models for the 250's??? I can't image you are going to make crazy detailed models anyway because you said you needed to keep them low for those with weak computers.... I also don't think anyone would mind it.

All that would have to change would be the bike weights and the power curves, everything else could be left. You mentioned that sounds are produced automatically based on the size of the motor, so that shouldn't be much of a problem?

SOUNDS SOOO SIMPLE EHH?

sike but that is probly the best and easiest way. good idea

[welker711]

I agree with shack. that sounds like an easier way to do things, and is a great idea.

[magnusson]

well, i think the 250´s know are like 450´s in real life, and the 125´s are like 250´s except the power is like on a 125. So i agree white Shack.

[frederick]

If I understand what Shack wrote, hes talking about the models itself. The visual model. Not the bike models in game.

And these 250fs are far from a real 450 powervise

[welker711]

yeah, he's saying jlv should use the same models, just change the dyno/weight of them, and then say they are 450's and 250's.

am i wrong?

[magnusson]

ok u mean that......haha, i wonder how it will be to have more power in this game

[Arran34]

IMO the 450's won't be as good as everyone is expecting. Every track on this game is shaped on the power of the 250; therefore the 450 is going too quick. I think the only tracks that will benefit are stock tracks, such as Alcrest, where jumps such as the triple will be easier. I think we're going to find ourselves overjumping everything, as there are little or no tracks which have 250/450 line alternatives (eg. double, single for 250, triple for 450).

[Arran34]

Sorry for double post

One more point which I forgot to mention is, that I think 450's will lead to tracks containing jumps which can only be achieved by the 450's (except for the extremely good track makers) which will leave people (like myself) who ride 250's unable to ride newly released tracks.

[jlv]

I'm more concerned with dealing with 2 different classes of bike than anything else. I have other things to do before opening that can of worms.

[jasper125]

if there will come a 450 then a 250 2 stroke has to come along to. thats something a want really bad a 250 2 stroke. The bike has not as an 125 very bad torq in low rpm's but the bike has like an 125 also very much power in high rmp's

[motox124]

i want to see this really bad but like alot of people have been saying is that they will have to much power coming out of the corner but if they could have there own physics and have more traction so u wont spin out on every turn