SX Phoenix

I've heard conversation coming out of animal pens that is more intelligent than what is going on in here.
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Re: SX Phoenix

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Oh there's no way in hell I'm going to go back and even worry about that. Thing is James is just as guilty as Reed when it comes to block passing each other. It's a part of the sport. Everyone on that track has block passed everyone else on the track at one point. What defines blatant contact anyways?...seriously there is no way you could ever give a definitive answer. James hit Partridge in the air, was that blatant? Was it blatant when he cut over on Chad in that video? We'll never know. :)

IMO in the first video when Reed takes Stewart high in the berm it wasn't dirty, he left James enough room to make it through the corner, but he had to change his line to do it, isn't that the real purpose of a block pass? Ya know, blocking the other dudes line... To me it becomes dirty when the intent it to knock the other guy down. Reed's pass at Vegas '09, dirty as can be, no doubt about it.

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You will not find any footage of him taking anyone out
I can't find the video. But I remember him cleaning out Mcgrath, after he was part time. Mcgrath left his bike sit on top of James' and gave him the wth were you thinking look.

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The Reed defenders have made a good case... That was one of the only passing spots, and Stewart does ride as if everyone ought to just get out of his way.

The way Bubba continued to ride after all the $hit went down was impressive. He's tough and has character. Chad didn't have the heart to change his wheel in 20 seconds and salvage points last weekend. He gave up instead. Still has one of the best, most artistic riding styles out there tho.
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Finally saw the Stewart/reed crash,
reed sucks but, i know its a race but still why did he push him like that?
Childish i say...
I don't know what happened after that , just saw that both got back to riding, still watching the race (little late -.-)
I'm not said both could not ride, but something was wrong.
well i ques if Stewart took so large hit on the side so there's a reason to be amazed by him, two falls and still got up...
Both are good riders, but bubba is more my style.
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I would like to commend all of the Reed lovers for not flipping a bitch and turning on Stroupe after a part-time guy caused a DNF. Or at least i can't find any of you guys complaining. I was very suprised, and commend you.

Phathry: I really would like you to take a look back at the past year or two and ask yourself how many times Stewart has punted someone in a corner. I'll admit, hit first couple years in the bigs, while he was riding #259, he was a stupid rider. He really didnt care who he had to take out to win, he just wanted to win. But now that he has a couple years under his belt, i havent seen him hit anyone just to try to get by. I'll agree that the video dearnhardtfan posted at salt lake city, that was not a really dirty pass. Reed gave stewart room and forced him to shut off. But when Reed comes into a corner and actually makes contact with Stewart basically at a standstill (i.e. Jacksonville), thats not clean racing. Not to mention the number of times that CR has been in Stewart's ear after a race bitchin about not being able to win. Phathry, Im trying to be civil with you, please take a look back and ask yourself how dirty James really is.(to set things straight, im backing dungey the whole way)

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What an ass is Stewart. In the heat race he just jumps in the air into someone. Those kind of maneuvers you don't make in the middle of the pack.

And About the accident with Reed and Stewart, that's just an race accident.
Reed want's to attack Stewart on the inside. But Stewart wants to cut inside to prepare an attack on the guys in front of him.
So both line's come's together. It's amazing how both riders could avoid a much bigger crash.

And why want's the AMA suspend Reed? Reed justs lifts the head up of Stewart so he could stand up.
What Stewarts do after the race in the pitboxes is much worse and arrogant. Kicking on someone's 50 000$ bike.


And no I'm not an Reed fan. I'm not fan of anyone. I'm just an average European guy who likes it to watch some AMA race's.


And what a ride of Dungey again. Stewart can't effort him an other mistake or his title is gone. But still ... it's a long season.
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I think the AMA has to step up and fine stewart for reckless riding. Like it was said before, he rides like there is no one else on the track, so he rides what ever line he wants to, no matter where anyone else on the track is. The reckless part also applys to that one race a couple years back, where stewart jumped off the track i think, and he comes riding right straight across the turn after the finish, in front if Travis Preston, who just came over the finish. They collided, and they both went down because stewart didn't care to look if anyone was coming, he was just looking forward so he could keep racing. Like the stewart fans have been saying in this thread, he doesn't try to take anyone out on purpose, he's just to senseless to try to avoid crashes from happening.

I'm a Reed fan =]
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you made your point ... you don't have to post it twice :lol:.
And even last year he was reckless. At Anaheim 1 he just pushed his bike to the sideline without even watching if someone was coming. And that was the moment that Stewart ruined Windham his race...
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Re: SX Phoenix

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That is definetly weird... I posted that, looked at the topic twice, and there was only one post :(
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I don't believe it was either one of their faults. Stewart was forces to turn in tighter then normal and he didn't know reed was coming to the inside like that. Reed was already committed to the inside and he tried to keep it as tight as possible and avoid it. I think it was just unlucky for the both of them and as for Reed shoving Stewart's head.. I think it was a little more then just removing his hand. I don't like Reed but I wouldn't blame him or Stewart for the crash, it was just a bad situation.
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TimFerry15 wrote:I think the AMA has to step up and fine stewart for reckless riding. Like it was said before, he rides like there is no one else on the track, so he rides what ever line he wants to, no matter where anyone else on the track is. The reckless part also applys to that one race a couple years back, where stewart jumped off the track i think, and he comes riding right straight across the turn after the finish, in front if Travis Preston, who just came over the finish. They collided, and they both went down because stewart didn't care to look if anyone was coming, he was just looking forward so he could keep racing. Like the stewart fans have been saying in this thread, he doesn't try to take anyone out on purpose, he's just to senseless to try to avoid crashes from happening.

I'm a Reed fan =]
He's in the pro rank.Why would he be looking back.That's just loosing time.I'm sure he didn't know that that guy was behind him scrubbing that triple, and as soon as he went into the air he looked back and knew he was in trouble.Why would you be mad at James for that one anyways?He got landed on.Definately the bad part of the deal right there.
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tyskorn wrote: He's in the pro rank.Why would he be looking back.That's just loosing time.
Uhh...so he doesn't get landed on? Like 2 days ago? Or when Preston hit him? Or when IT ran into Stewart in practice because of the same thing and ended up with a broken hand? Or when he was pushing his bike off last year at A1 and moved right into Windham's line?
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REIDY-171 wrote:Or when he was pushing his bike off last year at A1 and moved right into Windham's line?
That was definately not James' fault.Why didn't Kevin just go to the left like everyone else was?
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If you ask anyone that knows anything at all about racing, they will tell you not to look back at the guy behind you. Like tyskorn said, you lose time. Whether the first crash was Stewart's fault or not, he got the worse end of the deal. The crash with Reed, Stewart cannot be faulted for not looking to see where Reed was. His JOB is to try to pass everyone in front of him.
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REIDY-171 wrote:
tyskorn wrote: He's in the pro rank.Why would he be looking back.That's just loosing time.
Uhh...so he doesn't get landed on? Like 2 days ago? Or when Preston hit him? Or when IT ran into Stewart in practice because of the same thing and ended up with a broken hand? Or when he was pushing his bike off last year at A1 and moved right into Windham's line?
Got a Stewart hater here.

*racist* cough cough.

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dearnhardtfan7 wrote:If you ask anyone that knows anything at all about racing, they will tell you not to look back at the guy behind you. Like tyskorn said, you lose time. Whether the first crash was Stewart's fault or not, he got the worse end of the deal. The crash with Reed, Stewart cannot be faulted for not looking to see where Reed was. His JOB is to try to pass everyone in front of him.
You dont look back when you are already on the track, but if you are coming onto the track, you are an idiot not to look back.
Axle McOctane wrote:The Reed defenders have made a good case... That was one of the only passing spots, and Stewart does ride as if everyone ought to just get out of his way.

The way Bubba continued to ride after all the $hit went down was impressive. He's tough and has character. Chad didn't have the heart to change his wheel in 20 seconds and salvage points last weekend. He gave up instead. Still has one of the best, most artistic riding styles out there tho.
I don't think they are allowed to do that are they?
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