KTM350sxf Fixed and updated

[jlv]

Then you obviously did not read this whole thread or you would have seen that I clearly stated to gio and DJ that if it was the wish of gio to take the link down and remove the bike then i would gladly have DJ do so. If i have to explain it more than that then you are hopeless.

The lawsuit threat wasn't a big enough hint? He clearly wants his stuff to go unreleased. That's his right.

If you want to talk ethics lets talk about a $50.00 dollar game that was nowhere near complete and is driven 80% by this community and their content creation.

A game that is still being supported and played years after its initial release. What a rip off!

[adhkcrfhonda]

You don't dispute that this is at least partially his work, right? He clearly does not want you to distribute it since he's threatened a lawsuit. Despite that you are continuing to distribute his work. If I have to explain it more than that you are hopeless.

Then you obviously did not read this whole thread or you would have seen that I clearly stated to gio and DJ that if it was the wish of gio to take the link down and remove the bike then i would gladly have DJ do so. If i have to explain it more than that then you are hopeless. If you want to talk ethics lets talk about a $50.00 dollar game that was nowhere near complete and is driven 80% by this community and their content creation.

also have i said something to offend you JLV in the past? because for the last while you have been very short with me on things and I really dont appreciate it as I have not said anything to you nor have I been disrespectful to you.

when did gio say you could use his stuff? after his whole drama thing, it was pretty clear to me that his shit should never be used? and dude thats just low. is this not the funnest game you have ever played?

[ShowtimeMx]

You don't dispute that this is at least partially his work, right? He clearly does not want you to distribute it since he's threatened a lawsuit. Despite that you are continuing to distribute his work. If I have to explain it more than that you are hopeless.

Then you obviously did not read this whole thread or you would have seen that I clearly stated to gio and DJ that if it was the wish of gio to take the link down and remove the bike then i would gladly have DJ do so. If i have to explain it more than that then you are hopeless. If you want to talk ethics lets talk about a $50.00 dollar game that was nowhere near complete and is driven 80% by this community and their content creation.

also have i said something to offend you JLV in the past? because for the last while you have been very short with me on things and I really dont appreciate it as I have not said anything to you nor have I been disrespectful to you.

when did gio say you could use his stuff? after his whole drama thing, it was pretty clear to me that his (organic matter) should never be used? and dude thats just low. is this not the funnest game you have ever played?

I never said that the game isnt fun or else I wouldnt be trying to make new stuff to use while playing it. Is it frustrating that its been out for a few years and we still have no 3d model viewer inside the menu yes. among a few other thins, But i completely agree that this game is great fun once you get past the learning curve, i also believe that jlv is a very talented man, but i do not believe he had any right to say what he did about me. Gio and i had talked on msn a lot and about my rider model and the ktm350, it is not as though i never told him or that i told everyone that i made the whole thing i gave proper recognition where do. People dont realize the other side of the coin, i spent months and months working very hard on the rider model alongsided gio only to have gio then tell me please do not release it, so what did i do i respected his wishes and have not released it. I respect gio and as i have already said if he does not want the links to the bike posted then im ok with DJ or whoever to remove them and this thread.

[giopanda]

ok can we please stop talking about this?
i didn't want to start this over again, all i had to say about my departure has been said already.
what i'd do in case of a lawsuit would be claiming the intellectual property of the png file itself, not the boot design, i know that way alpinestars could have my ass skinned and i because i know how copyrights works i'm no worried in that way.
as i said already i don't want any link do be deleted, what showtimes is using are parts of ddmx's ktm and as i said he's allowed to use them since ddmx is ok on using his parts i can't deny using mine too, so jlv in this you're wrong i never asked showtimes' link to be taken down.
to all those immature that can only say that this is just a game and i'm over reacting and should take chill pills i ask please i beg you shut the hell up, you don't even know what are talking about, i can't stand you anymore.
and to those that want me out i say that in case you didn't noticed i had a lot of things ready to be shared with all of you that will stay for a long time only on my hard disk, so i did quit already, but noone say i can't post here anymore.
one last thing, please jlv can you take in consideration working on a safer way to compress files?
as i said that would be the only way to have me back, and mind i'm not saying you have to do it if you want me again, i'm not that arrogant, i'm just asking this on behalf of every single person that created something for this game, to have their work safer from immature kids that think that ripping stuff and posting screenshots of it is cool.
thanx

[toonys66]

this game is awesome and so much worth his price!!!!! JLV is making a crazy work on this awesome game!
dont everyone want to keep staying in the topic of the game and enjoy it, rather than speaking so much about law, sue... it start to become irritating all these things! Gio left, it s a shame but let s stop all these things it will end nowwhere except making leave people! as gio say secure file will be awesome for everyone!
People who create something , maybe just don t put any preview, and when it s done either release it(which i think it s the aim of doing it) or keep it but without showing to anyone, which some are going to want have it and then try to rip it!!!
let s go on the KTM topic.....

[Mikey]

immature kids

That made me laugh!

[DJ99X]

one last thing, please jlv can you take in consideration working on a safer way to compress files?

Why? None of your 'ripping' issues have been caused by people extracting from SAF's. Its just been people passing around your templates etc. To be fair, you could blame it partially on yourself. You made a misjudgement in who you could trust with your stuff. Just like I did with my helmet template, or Luiz with his KX.

But if you really want a better way to protect your stuff, I suggest using g-zip like JLV. Just zip first, then saf.

[Mr.Two]

ok can we please stop talking about this?
i didn't want to start this over again, all i had to say about my departure has been said already.

So. . if you didn't originally post here to have it removed and you didn't want to start this again, you were just posting to express your anger and threats about something you said yourself you don't want to be taken down?

what i'd do in case of a lawsuit would be claiming the intellectual property of the png file itself, not the boot design, i know that way alpinestars could have my ass skinned and i because i know how copyrights works i'm no worried in that way.
as i said already i don't want any link do be deleted, what showtimes is using are parts of ddmx's ktm and as i said he's allowed to use them since ddmx is ok on using his parts i can't deny using mine too, so jlv in this you're wrong i never asked showtimes' link to be taken down.

Then your anger in this thread is based on what exactly?

to all those immature that can only say that this is just a game and i'm over reacting and should take chill pills i ask please i beg you shut the hell up, you don't even know what are talking about, i can't stand you anymore.

Please oh please I beg you to "shut the hell up".<-- See pretty lame huh? Someone saying that should never be preaching about immaturity of other. And incase you didn't notice there are quiet informed people on this forum that don't agree with the level you have taken this to.

and to those that want me out i say that in case you didn't noticed i had a lot of things ready to be shared with all of you that will stay for a long time only on my hard disk, so i did quit already, but noone say i can't post here anymore.

Now don't get me wrong I don't really want you to leave, but the arrogance in that statement blows my mind. So your purpose of posting here is what? To rub the fact you made stuff that will never see the light of day in our faces because one person ripped from you?

one last thing, please jlv can you take in consideration working on a safer way to compress files?
as i said that would be the only way to have me back, and mind i'm not saying you have to do it if you want me again, i'm not that arrogant, i'm just asking this on behalf of every single person that created something for this game, to have their work safer from immature kids that think that ripping stuff and posting screenshots of it is cool.
thanx

Now I don't really agree with DJ's statement but there is some truth in it.

[Karliuxs]

I Agree with Mr.Two

[MessiaH]

Now for the suing bit, BE CAREFUL. My father in law was ranked the number 5 lawyer in the country last year and he told me that trying to sue somebody over something similiar to what you would do, would end up you paying lots of court fee's and getting nowhere in return why? because unless alpinestars gave you permission in the first place to make their boots and put them in a game you have no legal rights to sue someone for a product you dont own the rights to in the first place so suing someone over that would be a null point my friend and i really wouldnt go that route. Now if you want to press charges for stealing you could try that, but then again i doubt it will get you anywhere.

I disagree. There are some rules that most of us creators, at least I do, stick to to bypass legal rights manufacturers of items we replicate might have.

I suggest you look into the actual legal rights we have and get involved with, making sure you understand them 100%, before you start arguments like these.

[NIKK SPILLANE #244]

dont want your stuff to get ripped dont give it to anyone,
or how about no one makes anything and everyone wouldnt be at each others throats

[stevoktm]

if nobody made anything nikk you wouldnt be able to use the bike and gear in your sig

[Garasaki]

Hard to believe a moderator didn't have the sense to lock this topic about 3 pages ago

[NIKK SPILLANE #244]

if nobody made anything nikk you wouldnt be able to use the bike and gear in your sig

so? id use stock bikes. why dont the people get banned that rip peoples shit?

[DJ99X]

Hard to believe a moderator didn't have the sense to lock this topic about 3 pages ago

I was just gonna split it and put it in the memory hole, but I was using my phone last night. So I left it until morning assuming nothing much would happen. But boy did I misjudge that.