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Jay wrote:
Ronny_Rocket wrote:i'm not being funny or anything but if someone took you out and you had the opportunity to give them a take out back everyone who has commented would? i know that if someone took me out, clean or not i would still want to take them out at the next round for making me crash. Just my personal opinion.
Would you then go and make a video about it though ???
now that is a different story and i don't agree with doing that lol :lol: :lol:
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This is how I see this whole situation...

As you can clearly see, ATSY obviously messed up the rhythm section during the round 1 main. Tyler had a smooth line and gained a bunch of time on him. As Tyler said, he didn't want to be stuck behind any longer so he went for a legit pass that anyone would have went for. Sure it may have been a little agressive, HOWEVER, if he didn't go for the pass there and just stayed behind ATSY he probably would have ran into the back of him since he was going a lot faster into the corner. In my opinion, it was a block pass, nothing more.

Now on to the 2nd round main.... You can clearly see that ATSY jumped the bales and went straight for the punt. He didn't "square up" until he had punted Tyler. There was no intention of slowing down early and giving Tyler room for clean racing. Therefore in this situation, it was a dirty takeout.

Plus the fact that you added the part where you said, "Well you took me out in the main..." and the song proceeded to say, "Now you're going to die." doesn't really make the situation any better for ATSY. It just proves the fact that he went straight for the takeout, not a block pass.

So basically, that was not called for in any matter, whatsoever. It was a blatant, dirty punt. ATSY should be banned for at least a round in my opinion, but I don't run the series, nor have anything to do with it, so it's not my call.

Just thought I'd give you guys my input.
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Remember this, guys. Josh is the reason for NZ's problems. Atsy does nothing wrong. #DownWithTriangles
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bdownen323 wrote:Remember this, guys. Josh is the reason for NZ's problems. Atsy does nothing wrong. #DownWithTriangles
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tyskorn wrote:WHOA WHOA WHOA. I apologize for Brady's language, everyone.
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Kevin Windham did it therefore it is a legit passing technique! He even jumped the bails too! :lol:





If you click the title of Atsys video and go through to youtube you can choose an option to change the speed of the video. Select 0.25 speed and then watch the clip starting from around 0.23 seconds. If you watch carefully it looks like the kawi tucks the front end over the lip of the berm a split second before he gets punted, to me it looks like he was going down anyway. It was a super dirty move, though, but I laughed at the video and watched it multiple times :lol: I'm sure Atsy is aware that what goes around comes back around.
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BuddyTheElf wrote:If you watch carefully it looks like the kawi tucks the front end over the lip of the berm a split second before he gets punted, to me it looks like he was going down anyway.
Nope, that's just lag
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BuddyTheElf wrote:Kevin Windham did it therefore it is a legit passing technique! He even jumped the bails too! :lol:
Well, Windham was penalized 10 points for that hit so it's not like what he did was remotely legal either. Not arguing just getting the facts straight.

I'm not on either side of this argument though.

I do know that Crain is the more talented rider in terms of bike control betweem the two (Ash is good, still new though) and Ash really screwed himself here. I know Crain isn't much of a dirty rider but the fact that Ash made a bigger deal out of it than it really was with this video means that Crain will remember this down the road, whether or not he does anything about it is up to him. But it's kinda like Tysen/Dudu. Simoes cleaned Tysen at a round in 2012 SX and since then I've seen a couple of gnarly completely on track block passes that Tysen rode away clean and Simoes didn't. Tysen just laughs it off anymore but if people know that that's the way you plan on riding with them then they will surely not give you an inch ever again.

Back on the Windham thing though, up to James on the nature of penalty or no and it sounds like nothing at all will be given out. However, a fair warning that if you do precisely what Ash did in an rF race, our rulebook would deem it to be illegal and a penalty will likely be given simply for the cutting the bails part.

Side note: Australia/New Zealand riders need to understand sooner rather than later the difference your lag will make in this situation. I respect Mikey and Craig and a few others from down under a ton for their willingness to provide more room while racing due to their lag bubble. Crain's pass on Ash would have likely never put him over the berm if they were both American cause the contact was that small. Crain would probably still been over the berm in Ash's pass but it makes it much more "punt-ish" because of the lag.

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Yeh I know there is lag but to me it still looks like he's washing the front right before he gets hit. Watch it frame by frame (i.e, keep clicking pause) whilst the speed is at 0.25 from 0:32 onwards. It looks like the front tucks before the rest of the bike moves from the punt.

p.s. The Windham thing was a joke :wink:
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Osari52 wrote:Side note: Australia/New Zealand riders need to understand sooner rather than later the difference your lag will make in this situation. I respect Mikey and Craig and a few others from down under a ton for their willingness to provide more room while racing due to their lag bubble. Crain's pass on Ash would have likely never put him over the berm if they were both American cause the contact was that small. Crain would probably still been over the berm in Ash's pass but it makes it much more "punt-ish" because of the lag.
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T-RIDER wrote:I know I try do a lot about it in competition
Josh's English went to Brazil for a moment there.
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I actually liked the video, and unlike the vocal opinion, I like most of his videos.

As for the passes... well, yea it's dirty and sucks but what goes around comes around. It should be settled on the track. Tyler hasn't had a reputation for riding dirty from what I've seen, but he did take Atsy out, and anytime you take someone out, you should know it puts a target on your back. Does it suck to get punted in return? Heck yea, but if you don't want that, dont' do it in the first place. Not a ton of sympathy, especially when it's for position.

Now, if it is someone constantly out to just take people out, and not racing to race, I think that is when the promoter needs to get involved.

The best solution for take outs is for everyone to try and race clean. The bad eggs are only building enemies, and it will catch up with them.

I still think it sucks for Tyler, but that's because I'm biased because I've seen him race clean a lot the past few years, but in this situation I don't think it's fair to bandwagon jump against Atsy.
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How is it bandwagon hate?

He made a video taking Tyler out, who wants to race that shit?
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bdownen323 wrote:
T-RIDER wrote:I know I try do a lot about it in competition
Josh's English went to Brazil for a moment there.
Nah you're just dumb. :D
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