The first person cam alot of people want <3

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jlv wrote: Fri May 01, 2026 3:53 am People have a right to be disappointed with the progress lately. Complaining won't speed things up but I do understand the disappointment. There are things taking my time that are outside of my control right now.
1st person cam is fine the way it is imo but it would be very helpful if it were possible to look to our left & right. Being able to take a quick peak to check your inside coming into bowl corners in sx would be so sick. Being able to check your inside off the start as well.

Set it up so when you press the key/button the camera starts to pan to the left/right until about 2 or 3 o'clock. Also make the camera pan back to the original position as soon as you release the button so you have full control of how far you want to look over for specific situations.

Maybe even have the option to customize how quickly the camera pans as well like a slider for "camera pan speed"

Idk just throwing ideas out there.
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What I really want to do is move the camera positioning code to javascript so it can be fully customized. It needs to be a separate context from the gameplay script though.
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jlv wrote: Tue May 05, 2026 3:22 am What I really want to do is move the camera positioning code to javascript so it can be fully customized. It needs to be a separate context from the gameplay script though.
TeamHavocRacing wrote: Mon May 04, 2026 6:14 pm On a lighter note, this made me think of your killer sense of humor and the "Daytona Disappointment" track release!
That was quite an all-nighter for me!
Please i beg you do the first person update
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So I really didn't want to hard code this and instead make something scriptable which could be infinitely customized by the user. But realistically it's going to be a while until I have a UI scripting system in place. Since this seems important to a lot of people I think I'll just hard code it now.

You guys want it to lock the camera Y axis to the world Y axis right? Meaning that the camera just yaws around without any pitch or roll.

I figure I'll solve the gimbal lock problem by interpolating between the rider Y axis and world Y axis, using 100% world axis when the rider's Y is vertical and 100% rider Y axis then the rider is horizontal.

Does that sound like a reasonable plan?
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Speaking of submission holds... could you also implement changeable font size in "Dabbing!"?
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You're the only one who asked for that!

Also, thinking a little more about what I said about gimbal lock with the world Y aligned camera and I don't think my plan would actually work well. I'm thinking it wouldn't look good when you lean way over and the camera rolls as it goes horizonal.
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I think the idea is to keep the current gimbal system for the up and down axis and then just make a first person option where we can lock camera to lean angle of bike (current system) or unlock the camera from the bikes roll axis and basically just keep the screen perfectly level (no roll) and let the bike roll underneath the camera.
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I figure it'd be best if it could blend between the two settings so you don't have to lose all feel for how you're leaning. It'll be really hard to feel the bike with the Y axis completely locked to global Y.
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yeah maybe a %lock slider of some sort?
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Yeah I definitely want a slider instead of on/off. Just need to think about how it'll behave in the edge cases like when you're upside down.
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jlv wrote: Fri Sep 04, 2026 2:39 am I figure it'd be best if it could blend between the two settings so you don't have to lose all feel for how you're leaning. It'll be really hard to feel the bike with the Y axis completely locked to global Y.
I think with practice it won't be as hard as it seems to ride with the camera locked to the world Y axis. If this is possible, I'd say have a setting that you click that changes from "Locked to Bike" like we have now. Then "Locked to world Y axis" and then last but not least Dynamic. Make the Dynamic setting unlock a slider that allows you to adjust what angle you want your camera to lock at. In other words, you can choose what angle you'd like your camera to stop rolling with the bike. Also, it might help if you could make a setting that hides just the riders head/helmet & torso. That way we would have more room to work with without visibility getting obstructed and hopefully open up the possibility of having one more slider that adjusts where the camera sits (Forward/Backward) when the rider is neutral.
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MXTYSEN21 wrote: Fri Sep 04, 2026 10:22 pm I think with practice it won't be as hard as it seems to ride with the camera locked to the world Y axis. If this is possible, I'd say have a setting that you click that changes from "Locked to Bike" like we have now. Then "Locked to world Y axis" and then last but not least Dynamic. Make the Dynamic setting unlock a slider that allows you to adjust what angle you want your camera to lock at. In other words, you can choose what angle you'd like your camera to stop rolling with the bike. Also, it might help if you could make a setting that hides just the riders head/helmet & torso. That way we would have more room to work with without visibility getting obstructed and hopefully open up the possibility of having one more slider that adjusts where the camera sits (Forward/Backward) when the rider is neutral.
It doesn't draw the helmet in first person. It does use a separate first person rider model if available.
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